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Offline Granny

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Re: Addressing climate change
« Reply #165 on: July 31, 2019, 08:29:06 am »
Yes i agree.  My argument is that we won't find the solution in aboriginal economies because they have found sustainability in pre-industrial economic ways of life.  I'm sure there are some if not many things we can learn from them, but what we need are sustainable solutions to industrial economies.  Things like green energy and ways to power cities and vehicles etc.

Yes we certainly do need sustainable solutions to industrial economies and in our bullheaded and 'bandwagon' ways, we may make huge mistakes again, in the name of capitalism and private profit, as we have with over-reliance on fossil fuels. If we include Traditional Indigenous Knowledge in our planning, we'll make fewer mistakes. 

Elders told me that geothermal and tidal power are not solutions because long term, they are too disruptive to the earth's systems and sea creatures and are also vulnerable to disruption by climate and geological events.
They support wind power, especially the newer technologies (tube turbines that minimize noise/vibration and bird deaths). Also localized installation minimizing transmission, as transmission is very vulnerable to climate and geological disruption. Minimizing the necessity for 'migration' due to climate change and geological disruption is important in minimizing public costs and economic disruption.
Everybody should have a local, on/off the grid power source - solar and/or wind - to 'survive in place'.

Capitalism won't do that for us. They prefer the money to be made in transmission ... but transmission is not sustainable through climate change, and the infrastructure is ecologically destructive. (EG, Pipelines through wetlands that filter and clean the water for a whole watershed? Really?!!)

Indigenous Peoples see the past and the future, spiritually, perhaps, but also in a very practical sense because in their thousands of years of preserved memories, they've seen extreme climate and geologic disruption, and they can evaluate the long term viability of technologies for our future.

I'm not going to do your research on economies of Indigenous communities. I'll leave that for you to investigate yourself. (If you haven't done so, perhaps you shouldn't be dismissing them with  generalized, stereotyped and prejudiced  remarks.

Consider this: Some Indigenous communities have been able to earn capital from revenues accruing from industry developments in their territories, and use that capital to develop businesses that help their communities become self-sustaining. Others have not had access to such revenues. Throughout Canada's history, the Federal governments have stalled and evaded releasing money from Indigenous Trust Funds  to them for economic development, because local and other businesses DON'T WANT COMPETITION FROM INDIGENOUS BUSINESSES. That political/competitive pressure has been constant, and has disrupted many of their efforts at economic development.

Also, at least half of Indigenous people do not live on reserves, and their families may not have for several/many generations. Though they may maintain ties to their original communities, Nations and cultures, they are raised, educated and employed in our communities.

Indigenous Peoples have a lot of knowledge that can help us avoid mistakes in the future, and also a diversity in perspectives, economies, locations, societies and cultures across the country.

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