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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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3 cops charged with killing a child
« on: August 31, 2022, 09:35:12 pm »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/opp-charges-manslaughter-siu-boy-death-1.6568644

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The Special Investigations Unit (SIU) had been investigating after it said Ontario Provincial Police officers shot at the boy's father in his car in Kawartha Lakes, Ont., after he allegedly abducted his child on Nov. 26, 2020.

The child, identified by the SIU as 18-month-old Jameson Shapiro, died that day, while the father died of gunshot wounds about a week later.

The SIU says three OPP constables — Nathan Vanderheyden, Kenneth Pengelly and Grayson Cappus — have each been charged with one count of manslaughter and one count of criminal negligence causing death in relation to the boy's death.

I guess the cops just started blasting at the vehicle without regard for the child….??

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2022, 08:26:16 am »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/opp-charges-manslaughter-siu-boy-death-1.6568644

I guess the cops just started blasting at the vehicle without regard for the child….??

I think maybe it was driving through a roadblock or something as I recall.  This was a horrible event and at the time was all over the news.

Completely unprofessional and calamitous result from the actions of yahoo armed civil servants IMO.

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2022, 09:37:43 am »
Not if he was driving at them.

Well, yeah. 

It was known that he had abducted a kid so if he's driving towards a roadblock get out of the way.  i mean, they did that too but they shot a kid.

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2022, 10:00:45 am »
Yep, which is essentially the fathers fault for putting his son in that situation.

No it was the cop's fault for shooting the kid, hope that helps.

Anyway, that's not what happened:

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Not long after, police located a pickup truck identified as a "vehicle of interest" on Sturgeon Road in Kawartha Lakes.

Officers tried to intercept the truck, but it crashed into an OPP cruiser as well as another car on Pigeon Lake Road. One officer who was standing outside the cruiser at the time was seriously hurt in the process, the SIU said.

Three officers then opened fire, striking the one-year-old boy inside the truck as well as his father.

Sounds like he ran into the cops, the cops got mad, so the cops killed him and the kid.




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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2022, 10:38:49 am »
Yep, which is essentially the fathers fault for putting his son in that situation.

Right.  That's not the end of this though... serve & protect etc.

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2022, 10:50:52 am »
You should apply to be a police officer and show them how it’s done!

Hmmmm...

One can empathize with the extreme difficulty in doing this job and still criticize utter failures.

You DO agree with criticizing public servants right ?

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2022, 10:51:09 am »
Sounds like he tried to hit the officers on purpose with his car, and they responded appropriately.  It’s too bad the kid had such a loser for a father.  A father that apparently couldn’t give a **** about his child.  It’s always easier to blame somebody else though.

Yeah it's easy to blame the people who shot the kid for the shooting of the kid. It is also correct which is why they are facing charges, something that almost never happens in incidents like this. You bootlicker.

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2022, 11:15:14 am »
You should put at least a bit of the blame on the father, since he created the whole situation.Regardless, a jury will decide what happened, and whether or not their actions were justified.  Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?  Or is that concept foreign to people you don't like?

Yeah the guy shouldn't have kidnapped the kid and rammed a patrol car. I'm not sure why his actions mean the kid had to die though.

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2022, 12:09:00 pm »
Yep, which is essentially the fathers fault for putting his son in that situation.

I don't think anybody thinks the father is blameless.

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Re: 3 cops charged with killing a child
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2022, 12:09:30 pm »
I'm not sure how you assume that this was an utter failure.  The utter failure was the father, that we know for a fact.

Ok - well can we say a dead child innocent is a partial failure ?