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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2021, 12:20:54 pm »
Don't tell anyone, but I voted Liberal.

O'Toole lost me with the refusal to criticize Jason Kenney's handling of COVID.

You’re more Liberal, but less liberal, than I am!  :)

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« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2021, 12:57:29 pm »
I think the reason why is that the coalition was to include the Bloc, a party rooted in Quebec nationalism and separation.

Had they been able to put together a coalition with just the Liberals and NDP, it might have been better received.

"Recollections vary".

I don't remember that part, I just remember them being pissed they didn't get Harper.

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« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2021, 01:01:59 pm »
The anti-abortion group “Campaign Life” has already come out with their knives to get rid of O’Toole for going too far left. 

Will O’Toole get the boot by his party?  Will they go further right with a new leader?


I saw that on the news too last night.  I think it's going to be one of the most interesting developments from here on.  Will they go more right to quash the PPC or move to the centre hoping to unseat the Liberals.

It's actually kinda worrying to see this happening in Canada.  We are going to end up with an even more corrupt Liberal government or see a real Trump style major party in Canada. 

Neither option is inviting.

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« Reply #138 on: September 21, 2021, 01:11:00 pm »
Don't tell anyone, but I voted Liberal.
 

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #139 on: September 21, 2021, 01:11:15 pm »

I saw that on the news too last night.  I think it's going to be one of the most interesting developments from here on.  Will they go more right to quash the PPC or move to the centre hoping to unseat the Liberals.

It's actually kinda worrying to see this happening in Canada.  We are going to end up with an even more corrupt Liberal government or see a real Trump style major party in Canada. 

Neither option is inviting.

So far, so good….  The Libs are being held to a minority in parliament.  I think O’Toole sees that he has to swing very hard toward the mainstream of Canada.  If they only take Alberta by 10 points, but they take more seats elsewhere, then they can actually have a chance of winning.  They don’t even need to increase their vote #s.  They just need to shift them elsewhere.

If they double-down on catering to gun nuts, social conservatives and anti-vaxxers and move more right wing, they’ll lose even worse.
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Offline The Cynic

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #140 on: September 21, 2021, 01:47:25 pm »
Don't tell anyone, but I voted Liberal.

O'Toole lost me with the refusal to criticize Jason Kenney's handling of COVID.

You voted for Trudeau because O'Toole wouldn't criticize Jason Kenny's handling of COVID even though Trudeau's handling of COVID was arguably worse....

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« Reply #141 on: September 21, 2021, 01:49:16 pm »
So far, so good….  The Libs are being held to a minority in parliament.  I think O’Toole sees that he has to swing very hard toward the mainstream of Canada.  If they only take Alberta by 10 points, but they take more seats elsewhere, then they can actually have a chance of winning.  They don’t even need to increase their vote #s.  They just need to shift them elsewhere.

If they double-down on catering to gun nuts, social conservatives and anti-vaxxers and move more right wing, they’ll lose even worse.

He made no progress on that, actually losing votes in the 905 area. So in exchange for giving up those right wing votes he got nothing in return. He got fewer votes and seats than Scheer did.

What does 'double down' mean when they don't cater to social conservatives at all? As for 'gun nuts' that so-called assault weapon list has always been a joke in that there are no assault weapons on it. Anyone who calls those guns 'assault weapons' is either a liar or simply ignorant about the realities of firearms.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #142 on: September 21, 2021, 01:49:36 pm »
You voted for Trudeau because O'Toole wouldn't criticize Jason Kenny's handling of COVID even though Trudeau's handling of COVID was arguably worse....

It wasn't.

JT struck the right tone on COVID.

Anti-Vaxxers should receive no quarter.
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« Reply #143 on: September 21, 2021, 01:54:42 pm »
It wasn't.

JT struck the right tone on COVID.

Anti-Vaxxers should receive no quarter.

Was it the refusal to pay any attention to it until almost April which you thought was the right tone? Calling those who wanted to close the borders 'racists'? Flatly refusing to implement any kind of health screening at the borders or a real quarantine? Perhaps you were impressed by his great deal for vaccines he made with China? Or that when he found out he was being played he threw massive amounts of money at pharmaceutical companies to be let in line? We don't even know how much because his 'open government' doesn't include giving out information on what he's spending money on.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #144 on: September 21, 2021, 01:57:17 pm »
Was it the refusal to pay any attention to it until almost April which you thought was the right tone? Calling those who wanted to close the borders 'racists'? Flatly refusing to implement any kind of health screening at the borders or a real quarantine? Perhaps you were impressed by his great deal for vaccines he made with China? Or that when he found out he was being played he threw massive amounts of money at pharmaceutical companies to be let in line? We don't even know how much because his 'open government' doesn't include giving out information on what he's spending money on.

Hey Shady LOL
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #145 on: September 21, 2021, 02:10:38 pm »
Please don't Blaspheme on here.

Shady wouldn't deign to come to the 'leftist' forum...

(That's what this is called even though the founders and proponents are mostly conservative)

But... welcome shady

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #146 on: September 21, 2021, 02:12:16 pm »
Hey Shady LOL

LOL
The sound a man makes as he confidently asserts something dumb.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #147 on: September 21, 2021, 02:21:02 pm »
LOL
The sound a man makes as he confidently asserts something dumb.


You would be asking what that even means if you weren't.

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« Reply #148 on: September 21, 2021, 02:30:39 pm »

You would be asking what that even means if you weren't.

Busted!

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #149 on: September 21, 2021, 06:45:42 pm »
The waldo has returned a couple of hours after the election winner was called and thus has fulfilled the prophecy.

Some say Graham is a conspiracy theorist, but others say he can read between the lines...
I queef, therefore I am.