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Offline kimmy

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #90 on: September 20, 2021, 10:14:09 am »
My predictions:

 -CPC gets the most votes again

 -LPC gets the most seats again

 -a reduced minority, with Liberals dropping some seats in BC, Ontario, and Quebec.

 -PPC gets a bigger share of votes than they are polling at, especially in rural ridings and the West, but doesn't translate into seats except possibly for Bernier's own seat.

 -expectations for Justin have been set so low that when he achieves a mediocre result tonight it will be hailed as a great comeback by a cagey, scrappy political veteran. "How does he do it?" ask astounded talking heads who forgot that when he called this election people thought he'd win his majority back.

 -the NDP hold onto Edmonton Strathcona, the tiny dot of orange in the sea of blue.

I will go vote in person today, and if anti-vaxx/anti-mask goons attempt to cough on me I will be dishing out snap-kicks like they're going out of style.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #91 on: September 20, 2021, 12:22:34 pm »
No protesters blockading my polling station this morning.  Everyone knows one another here so voting is more like a little social gathering.  The integrity of the process was palpable.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #92 on: September 20, 2021, 01:06:31 pm »
Today I voted 3 times.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #93 on: September 20, 2021, 01:22:10 pm »
My predictions:

 -CPC gets the most votes again

Not this time…. Due to the PPC getting ~6%

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-LPC gets the most seats again

 -a reduced minority, with Liberals dropping some seats in BC, Ontario, and Quebec.

I think the CPC gets more seats but doesn’t take control due to a Lib/NDP coalition.  Ok…. That’s what I prefer, not what’s most likely…


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-PPC gets a bigger share of votes than they are polling at, especially in rural ridings and the West, but doesn't translate into seats except possibly for Bernier's own seat.

I doubt the polling is far off…. 6%….  Enough to make your first prediction not come true.

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-expectations for Justin have been set so low that when he achieves a mediocre result tonight it will be hailed as a great comeback by a cagey, scrappy political veteran. "How does he do it?" ask astounded talking heads who forgot that when he called this election people thought he'd win his majority back.

Naw…. He has been roundly questioned/criticized why there was even an election.  He will be harmed significantly if he doesn’t get a majority.  His crass power grab will be called out for what it is, as has already been happening.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #94 on: September 20, 2021, 01:42:54 pm »
I think Singh's most effective post-election strategy would be to propose legislation for some of issues that Trudeau has been pledging but not delivering on. Climate, reconciliation and election reform. Force the Liberals to either vote for or against their own promises. That's what I'd do.

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« Reply #95 on: September 20, 2021, 03:02:43 pm »
I think Singh's most effective post-election strategy would be to propose legislation for some of issues that Trudeau has been pledging but not delivering on. Climate, reconciliation and election reform. Force the Liberals to either vote for or against their own promises. That's what I'd do.

I like it. 

It might not have the desired effect, as very few in the public are actually politically engaged, but it doesn’t seem to me to have much downside.

That’s why I want the CPC to win more seats…. It might just force the Libs to do this if they have to have a coalition to keep governing.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #96 on: September 20, 2021, 03:55:19 pm »
Today I voted 3 times.

Geez nobody has a sense of himour around here?
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #97 on: September 20, 2021, 04:15:25 pm »
All the parties are pretty terrible.  In fact I think all the parties are at least partially insane.  Thankfully it will be a minority, another 2 years for whoever wins.

O'Toole ran a better campaign than Scheer, who had some of his religious issues creep up (because he was also insane), yet CPC not really polling much better.

I wish Singh spent 10 more years in the private sector and then ran for office.  People think he's nice but on issues he sounds like he has no idea what's he's talking about.

I think the Greens and NDP should merge (if they were wise, which they aren't), ideologically they're almost the same.  Unfortunately politically they're both the throwaway protest vote for people who don't like the Liberals.

I was very impressed by the Green leader's speaking ability, she's good on her feet and actually seems nice.

Can we shove a sock in Rosemary Barton's mouth?
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #98 on: September 20, 2021, 05:10:16 pm »
All the parties are pretty terrible.  In fact I think all the parties are at least partially insane.  Thankfully it will be a minority, another 2 years for whoever wins.

O'Toole ran a better campaign than Scheer, who had some of his religious issues creep up (because he was also insane), yet CPC not really polling much better.

I wish Singh spent 10 more years in the private sector and then ran for office.  People think he's nice but on issues he sounds like he has no idea what's he's talking about.

I think the Greens and NDP should merge (if they were wise, which they aren't), ideologically they're almost the same.  Unfortunately politically they're both the throwaway protest vote for people who don't like the Liberals.

I was very impressed by the Green leader's speaking ability, she's good on her feet and actually seems nice.

Can we shove a sock in Rosemary Barton's mouth?

“10 more years n private sector” is simply a nonsense statement.  The private sector does not make one’s ideas more coherent.  He has spent as much time in the private sector as O’Toole and more than Trudeau.

NDP is not a “throwaway vote”, unless you want a 2-party system.  In that world, everything other than the 2 parties is a wasted vote and no other party could ever attain power.  That’s rather silly.

I agree about the Green Party leader.  I would have had no problem supporting the Greens had they kept their internal issues within the party and solved them there.  Ignorance would have been bliss, in that case.  Instead, we heard the leader thinks her party is full of racists and that many Greens running the party are obsessed with the Middle East. 

I like Rosemary.  Both the herb and the CBC mouthpiece. 
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« Reply #99 on: September 20, 2021, 07:02:39 pm »
“10 more years n private sector” is simply a nonsense statement.  The private sector does not make one’s ideas more coherent.  He has spent as much time in the private sector as O’Toole and more than Trudeau.

Trudeau was woefully unprepared and underqualified to run a country, not a very good comparison.  I don't know enough about O'Toole's background to comment.  Singh is underqualified.  He's green, he's not even very educated on political issues even at this point, which is scary.  10 years of general life experience and in the work world outside government would do him well.  He had his own law partnership i believe, continue that and that would have taught him a lot about managing people and a business.  I think government experience is important too if you're planning on running a government.  Very different environments.

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I agree about the Green Party leader.  I would have had no problem supporting the Greens had they kept their internal issues within the party and solved them there.  Ignorance would have been bliss, in that case.  Instead, we heard the leader thinks her party is full of racists and that many Greens running the party are obsessed with the Middle East. 

What did she mean by racists?  Like anti-semites?
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #100 on: September 20, 2021, 07:19:46 pm »
CTV has a great panel of commentators, MP's like JWR and Olivia Chow.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #101 on: September 20, 2021, 07:48:31 pm »
Did we turn off that nifty online discussion thing ?  The chat box ?  I don't see it.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #102 on: September 20, 2021, 08:05:21 pm »
Did we turn off that nifty online discussion thing ?  The chat box ?  I don't see it.

It has been gone for a long time. 

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #103 on: September 20, 2021, 08:16:29 pm »
Trudeau was woefully unprepared and underqualified to run a country, not a very good comparison.  I don't know enough about O'Toole's background to comment.  Singh is underqualified.  He's green, he's not even very educated on political issues even at this point, which is scary.  10 years of general life experience and in the work world outside government would do him well.  He had his own law partnership i believe, continue that and that would have taught him a lot about managing people and a business.  I think government experience is important too if you're planning on running a government.  Very different environments.

Again, his experience in the private sector is the same or better than the other leaders, so it makes no sense. 

10 more years in the private sector won’t help you agree with his ideas.

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What did she mean by racists?  Like anti-semites?

I don’t know…. I don’t remember her qualifying her statements. 

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #104 on: September 20, 2021, 08:20:44 pm »
So far, the Libs are ahead….  If Atlantic Canada is any indication, it looks like the Libs will be in for the biggest majority government ever.  And the NDP will be blanked.