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Offline Mr. Perfect

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2021, 02:37:01 pm »
Looking forward to Waldo's postmortem on the election

It wonít happen in this thread.  Please note the titleÖ.  Take your Waldo talk to a different thread.

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« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2021, 03:21:01 pm »
The latest odds from the CBC poll Tracker:

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

We will likely see a Lib minority again.  Probably the best thing that could happen in terms of realistic outcomes.  I do hope that itís a smaller minority than they have now. 

Iíd like the NDP and Cons to team up and ditch these clowns, but I donít think they would do that.

I voted by mail yesterday.

Maybe a more likely scenario would be the Libs winning less seats than the Cons and needing to have a coalition with the NDPÖ. 

That is now my ideal scenario that is also somewhat realistic.
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« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2021, 04:49:21 pm »
You know when you go to a restaurant and spend 20 minutes reading the menu only to order the same thing you do every time?

That's me every election with the NDP. 
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« Reply #63 on: September 15, 2021, 11:48:06 am »
You know when you go to a restaurant and spend 20 minutes reading the menu only to order the same thing you do every time?

That's me every election with the NDP.

The NDP sent me a very well designed flyer citing the chaos in the Green Party, quoting their own leader that the party is full of racists, and other highlights of the Greenís implosion.

Smart, truthful ad.  Hopefully it works, as the Greens and NDP, itís a smattering of Libs, in this riding are splitting the votes enough that it looks like it may go Conservative.

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« Reply #64 on: September 15, 2021, 12:55:34 pm »
I like the Greens having a smattering of seats until they get a full vision of what they are doing.

My brother was a **** Green guy who just gave them up.

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« Reply #65 on: September 15, 2021, 05:12:06 pm »
The PPC got 1.6% of the vote last time.  They're now polling over 6%.  Vaccines/lockdowns helping them.  I wonder how many will switch to CPC when it's time to vote.

Half their platform I actually agree with.  The other half has a lot of neoliberal free market stuff that turns me off, and they attract the Trumpist wing-dings.
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« Reply #66 on: September 15, 2021, 08:13:29 pm »
They are crazy.  Their budget is bonkers.  They would burn down the HoC and cut all services.
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« Reply #67 on: September 15, 2021, 08:28:47 pm »
They would burn down the HoC and cut all services.

Thatís the half that Graham likes maybeÖ.?
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« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2021, 08:59:11 pm »
Thatís the half that Graham likes maybeÖ.?

I find it remarkably easy to shut people up on Facebook by asking them basic questions.

It's pretty clear to me that any poster from here knows more than 100 average voters.

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« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2021, 10:47:58 pm »
They are crazy.  Their budget is bonkers.  They would burn down the HoC and cut all services.

Oh I agree they're crazy, and so is Bernier, I would never vote for them.  They're economically about as rightwing as you can get.  I didn't see the policy about burning down the HoC, but they would cut a ton of services.  They also don't believe in man-made global warming lol.

Ok looking again maybe not half their platform I agree with, maybe like 20%, and the other 80% is insane.
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« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2021, 11:46:11 pm »
I'm guessing the reduction of immigration is the part you like.  That's fair, I think most of us agree that it's too much too fast. 

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« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2021, 11:53:45 pm »
The NDP sent me a very well designed flyer citing the chaos in the Green Party, quoting their own leader that the party is full of racists, and other highlights of the Greenís implosion.

Smart, truthful ad.  Hopefully it works, as the Greens and NDP, itís a smattering of Libs, in this riding are splitting the votes enough that it looks like it may go Conservative.

I'd be curious to see what that looks like.  Was it the Israel criticism?  I know it was a weird hill to die on, but as a critic of Israel I personally think it's good to see at least one party call it as it is.

Vote splitting...  drives me nuts.  My mom has voted Green for many years and I can't talk politics with her anymore because of it.  There is no Green candidate this time so she voted Liberal even though she hates Trudeau for the Trans Mountain Expansion AND the race is between NDP and CPC in this riding.

I'm starting to think she just likes to drive me nuts with the vote splitting.  But it's actually Singh she doesn't like, much to my dismay.

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« Reply #72 on: September 16, 2021, 08:36:24 am »
  I agree with, maybe like 20%

What DO you like in their playbook then ?

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2021, 08:37:35 am »
I'm guessing the reduction of immigration is the part you like.  That's fair, I think most of us agree that it's too much too fast.

I think that it could be better managed.  By "could" I mean that it would be possible with a sea change in politics... smarter public, more consultation, shutting up the moralists on both sides...

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« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2021, 07:01:12 pm »
What DO you like in their playbook then ?

- A Peopleís Party government is committed to seeking options to replace the paternalistic Indian Act, which keeps indigenous peoples in a state of dependency and allows the federal government to control most aspects of their lives, with a new legal framework that guarantees equal rights and responsibilities to indigenous people as Canadians, and promotes the self-reliance of communities.

-A Peopleís Party government will respect our Constitution and treaties. It will reaffirm the federal governmentís power to approve natural resources and infrastructure projects, after adequate consultations with affected indigenous groups, and in partnership with them to ensure they can benefit from these economic opportunities.

-Substantially reduce immigration quotas, from about 400k planned by the Liberal government, down to 100k-150k per year. This will help reduce demand for housing and cool down these markets, especially in the large cities where most immigrants settle.

-Modify the Bank of Canadaís inflation target, from 2% to 0%. This will cool down inflation in all sectors, including housing.

-Stop funding social housing, which unfairly competes with private developers and has historically been a financial, social and urban planning disaster in every city where itís become widespread. It is not the governmentís role to build and rent apartments.

-Restrict the definition of hate speech in the Criminal Code to expression which explicitly advocates the use of force against identifiable groups or persons based on protected criteria such as religion, race, ethnicity, sex, or sexual orientation.
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