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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #30 on: September 01, 2021, 11:45:09 pm »
OMG, I can't believe that thought never occurred to me.

Right now all I have is a piece of paper to show that I've had two doses of Pfizer. The BC gov't says they intend to have mandatory vaccination for many activities in place within the month. They better come up with something better than this easily forgeable piece of paper.

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2021, 12:26:06 am »
Heck, with O’Toole’s bizarre support for unions and talk of climate change, maybe they’ll join forces with the NDP to oust the Libs!  Haha.  That would be karma…
I've mentioned elsewhere that the traditional left has abandoned their traditional blue-collar base in favor of ivory tower dogshit.  Blue collar workers in the UK and US had somehow come up with the notion that the Tories and Republicans (respectively) were the parties that best represented their interests. So it seems natural for the Conservatives to move to fill that void as well.

This, to me, is actually the most important policy idea of this election.  Not the various well-intentioned but probably counterproductive housing ideas.

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/erin-otoole-socialist-crusader/

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    O’Toole’s platform calls for four major things to give workers a voice around corporate governance and economic policy.

    •     Require that large federally-regulated employers—either those with 1,000 or more employees, or $100 million in annual revenue—have worker representation on their boards of directors
    •     Provide tax breaks to employers who sell shares to Employee Ownership Trusts
    •     Amend the Canada Labour Code to give workers a leg up when trying to unionize shops in companies with a history of anti-union activity, especially large multi-nationals
    •     Give labour unions standing at the Canada International Trade Tribunal to file action against companies
And IMO something just as significant, recognition of the increasing prevalence of the "gig economy" and precarious employment:

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It’s taken this election for politicians to finally start talking about what it means to protect workers in the gig economy.

Gig workers—who do everything from drive Uber to deliver groceries to coding and designing —probably numbered shy of 2 million before the pandemic, and have likely only increased in numbers since then. Around 3 million Canadians are self-employed, or freelance, according to Statistics Canada.

These workers, generally speaking, don’t have any of the benefits we associate with employment: If they want supplementary health insurance, Employment Insurance, Canadian Pension Plan benefits, they’ll have to pay for it all themselves.

The Conservatives are proposing a rather elegant solution: An Employee Savings Account. Gig economy companies would have to pay contributions “equivalent to CPP and EI premiums” into their gig workers accounts, where it will sit, tax free, to be withdrawn when needed.

It’s hardly a replacement for a good pension plan or an actual safety net—without employee contributions, and considering the hours worked by these employees, these funds will likely be quite modest.

And yet it’s more than the other parties are proposing.

The increasingly rapid replacement of traditional jobs with "gig economy" jobs is one of the most worrying trends in our economy right now and one of the factors that is accelerating the "race to the bottom".  For me, acknowledging this in their platform and proposing policy to address it probably wins my vote at this point.   I had been planning to vote NDP, but at this point I think the CPC has won my vote based on these pro-worker policy positions.


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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2021, 02:41:55 am »
Right now all I have is a piece of paper to show that I've had two doses of Pfizer. The BC gov't says they intend to have mandatory vaccination for many activities in place within the month. They better come up with something better than this easily forgeable piece of paper.

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They do. You register online and it comes up on your phone.

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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2021, 04:36:13 am »
They do. You register online and it comes up on your phone.

The Quebec one has a scan code I think.  They should be able to scan out of province too.

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« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2021, 09:57:37 am »
I had been planning to vote NDP, but at this point I think the CPC has won my vote based on these pro-worker policy positions.


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I hear what you're saying but I just can't get past the fact that too many conservative governments seem to make COVID worse wherever they're in power.
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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2021, 12:30:33 pm »
338 Canada now has the Cons as the likely winners of a minority government.

60% to 40% as the likelihood of winning the most seats.

The likelihood of a Lib majority went from 60% before the start of the campaign, to now at 4%.

If Trudeau takes his party from government to opposition in an election that didn’t need to happen, do you think he will be turfed as leader?  I think the knives will be out in full force if the Libs lose.

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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2021, 01:10:56 pm »
I’ve posted about my distaste for the Green Party’s obsession with Israel.

Well, they have gone into the land of crackpot crazy ideas with their statement on vaccines.  In part: 
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However, we know that there are people who are unable to get vaccinated for legitimate reasons, whether those be medical conditions, religious or cultural convictions…
https://www.greenparty.ca/en/statement/2021-08-18/green-party-statement-vaccination

Won’t vote for any party that, in the midst of a pandemic, says there are legitimate religious and cultural reasons not to be vaccinated.  F’kn idiots.
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« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2021, 01:52:17 pm »
I hear what you're saying but I just can't get past the fact that too many conservative governments seem to make COVID worse wherever they're in power.

I've warmed up to a lot of their platforms as well.  The COVID spending as many of you have heard me discuss, was the nail on JT's coffin (after his love of pipelines).  I like that CPC is trying to bring a balanced budget.  Unfortunately, it'll be at the cost of social programs, but watching billions go into the pockets of companies that didn't need it makes my blood boil.  Now the cost will be the less fortunate paying for all those CEO bonuses.

For me, along with the COVIDiocy, it's the lack of concern for the environment.  LGBTQ have won many battles, I don't think the CPC can put that genie back in the bottle, but they are dinosaurs when it comes to the environment and COVID.
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« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2021, 06:40:00 pm »
I've warmed up to a lot of their platforms as well.  The COVID spending as many of you have heard me discuss, was the nail on JT's coffin (after his love of pipelines).  I like that CPC is trying to bring a balanced budget.  Unfortunately, it'll be at the cost of social programs, but watching billions go into the pockets of companies that didn't need it makes my blood boil.  Now the cost will be the less fortunate paying for all those CEO bonuses.

For me, along with the COVIDiocy, it's the lack of concern for the environment.  LGBTQ have won many battles, I don't think the CPC can put that genie back in the bottle, but they are dinosaurs when it comes to the environment and COVID.

My main concern with CPC is their COVID governing and climate change.  Since they'd get a minority they won't be able to pass any legislation without another party and the others are all leftwing parties, so that's somewhat reassuring, as is that they'll continue to lean to the center (at least O'Toole and probably cabinet will) in order to maintain voter support as Harper did and the NDP did when they were official minority in the Mulcair era.
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« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2021, 01:16:32 pm »
Does anyone have any clue what the CPC policy is on Trudeau’s gun control (half)measures?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6166354
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Today, the Conservatives added a footnote to that campaign pledge to repeal C-71 and the order-in-council, saying that "all firearms that are currently banned will remain banned."

So he is in favour of Trudeau’s most recent gun control measures?  That should make his base super happy!  LOL

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« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2021, 01:34:51 pm »
So he is in favour of Trudeau’s most recent gun control measures?  That should make his base super happy!  LOL

oh they hate him all right...

They are trying to say that any favourable coverage of O'Toole by the CBC is NOT evidence that CBC tries to be objective but FURTHER PROOF that they are biased because O'Toole is a true Liberal.  Make sense ?  :)
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« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2021, 02:35:06 pm »
Does anyone have any clue what the CPC policy is on Trudeau’s gun control (half)measures?

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6166354
So he is in favour of Trudeau’s most recent gun control measures?  That should make his base super happy!  LOL

Trudeau sucks on so many issues that he's trying to make the campaign about gun control now.  Nice diversion.

He's the idiot who is bringing in gazillions of people from all over the world as refugees who can't speak english and aren't educated and then their children grow up poor in low income neighbourhoods with their parents working all day and night to scrape by and the parents are on drugs to deal with the stress, so the kids join gangs to have a family and traffic drugs and steal cars because its the only way they'll ever make a good income, and of course they need to buy guns to protect themselves when the drug deals go down and gun laws in Canada are already strong so to get the handguns and automatic weapons they smuggle them from the US.  But nobody has the balls to point out what the real problem is and certainly not fix it.  So they blame the gun laws like a bunch of morons.
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« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2021, 03:23:18 pm »
Quite the leap of logic there Graham.
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« Reply #43 on: September 07, 2021, 04:51:06 pm »
Quite the leap of logic there Graham.

Why?  Why do young men join gangs?  Why do they traffic drugs?   Why do they feel they need to own handguns and automatic weapons?   What demographics in Canada are doing these things, and why?

People who aren't brave enough to make the tough calls need to move out of the way for those that can.
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« Reply #44 on: September 07, 2021, 05:37:24 pm »
Trudeau sucks on so many issues that he's trying to make the campaign about gun control now.  Nice diversion.

He's the idiot who is bringing in gazillions of people from all over the world as refugees who can't speak english and aren't educated and then their children grow up poor in low income neighbourhoods with their parents working all day and night to scrape by and the parents are on drugs to deal with the stress, so the kids join gangs to have a family and traffic drugs and steal cars because its the only way they'll ever make a good income, and of course they need to buy guns to protect themselves when the drug deals go down and gun laws in Canada are already strong so to get the handguns and automatic weapons they smuggle them from the US.  But nobody has the balls to point out what the real problem is and certainly not fix it.  So they blame the gun laws like a bunch of morons.

Gun control (or the repeal of) is part of the Conservative Party’s platform!  They think it’s very important.  In their platform, they were to repeal the Liberal Government’s latest gun control laws.

Now, I think, they’re actually for those changes, or at least saying they aren’t going to repeal them.  This has really nothing to do with the Libs, but with the Conservative platform.    The fact that they’re not the least bit coherent is not Trudeau’s fault.
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