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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2021, 06:56:03 pm »
Liberals tanking in the polls, virtual tie with CPC, within margin of error.

Debates should be interesting.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2021, 02:20:49 pm »
https://globalnews.ca/news/8145113/canada-election-ipsos-leadership-singh/

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NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh has emerged as the most likable of the federal party leaders as Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau’s popularity sinks amid the election campaign, a new poll suggests.

The Ipsos poll conducted exclusively for Global News found Singh was the only party leader who was viewed more positively than negatively, with 45 per cent approval versus 39 per cent disapproval among those surveyed.

Trudeau, by contrast, had the highest unfavourability rating of any leader at 53 per cent,
while 41 per cent said they viewed him favourably.

I agree that Singh seems like the nicest and most trustworthy leader.  Some of his policies are loopy though of the typical naive idealistic left variety.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2021, 08:28:14 pm »


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On Sunday, Trudeau pointed to the noisy crowd trying to intimidate and drown out his event as proof O'Toole needed to condemn Gallant's comments to show her supporters and protesters that they are wrong.

"We know they don't listen to me," he said. "Perhaps they will listen to Erin O'Toole if he tells them that climate change is real. If he tells them that vaccines are safe and secure and demonstrates with real leadership, how we're going to move forward as a country to be safer, to be better and more prosperous."
That's the most honest and more to the point useful thing I've heard Trudeau say.

I only wish politicians did have the nerve to tell their parties wingnuts to STFU on occassion. Lots of occassions actually.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2021, 06:35:28 am »
I WON'T be voting for O' Toole, but he appears to be pushing the wing nuts to the PPC. 

A hope for centrism.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2021, 08:55:26 am »
I will be voting for O' Toole, but he appears to be pushing the wing nuts to the PPC. 

A hope for centrism.

I'll vote for him because he doesn't embrace this crap. He's hitting all the right notes.

But I really don't feel comfortable sharing this party with the crazies. I guess Democrats have to square the same circle when they have to share their party with a wide range of political stances.

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2021, 09:45:30 am »
jeez I meant to wrote WON'T

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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2021, 09:55:31 am »
But I really don't feel comfortable sharing this party with the crazies.

We now have the PPC to entertain us - especially their attacks against O'Toole being a Liberal.... lolz

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2021, 10:08:44 am »
We now have the PPC to entertain us - especially their attacks against O'Toole being a Liberal.... lolz
Kinda like ISIS-K describing the Taliban as not being extreme enough - and wasn't Trump booed for telling supporters to get vaccinated recently?

I've said it before, right wing conservatism isn't a place it's a direction.  Some people just have no time for taking two steps back on occassion I guess.

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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2021, 12:19:07 pm »
Kinda like ISIS-K describing the Taliban as not being extreme enough - and wasn't Trump booed for telling supporters to get vaccinated recently?

I've said it before, right wing conservatism isn't a place it's a direction.  Some people just have no time for taking two steps back on occassion I guess.

The right can't ignore the matter of increasing wealth disparity... and there are ways to share wealth without raising taxes too: reduce public subsidies for profitable endeavours, mandate wage increases or strengthen unions as Comrade O'Toole is doing now.
 

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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2021, 12:56:09 pm »
CBC poll tracker’s latest news.

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Conservatives move further ahead as Liberals continue to slide

The Conservatives have moved ahead in the polling average and are widening their lead over the Liberals, who are still favoured to win the most seats — but that seat advantage is shrinking as well. The New Democrats are maintaining their support and are poised to make gains, while the Bloc Québécois and Greens have less support than they did in 2019. The People's Party has risen to 4.3 per cent, placing them ahead of the Greens nationwide.


https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/elections/poll-tracker/canada/

I am thinking the ideal outcome would be a Con slight minority government.

Heck, with O’Toole’s bizarre support for unions and talk of climate change, maybe they’ll join forces with the NDP to oust the Libs!  Haha.  That would be karma…
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2021, 04:03:01 pm »
The right can't ignore the matter of increasing wealth disparity... and there are ways to share wealth without raising taxes too: reduce public subsidies for profitable endeavours, mandate wage increases or strengthene unions as  O'Toole is doing now.

The Liberal Party (as opposed to genuine progressives)
seems to have little problem ignoring wealth disparity as well but worse they're even more studious about disregarding power disparity - as evidenced by two clearly linked things, backpeddling from electoral reform and calling an unnecessary election. Both were done for the very same reason, they want all the power. Liberals seem to know more instinctively that wealth will follow where power goes.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2021, 08:46:44 pm »
I WON'T be voting for O' Toole, but he appears to be pushing the wing nuts to the PPC. 

A hope for centrism.

I've decided that i'm likely going to vote CPC.  Reasoning:

1. Since the winner will almost certainly have a minority, having the CPC form government and needing one of the other leftwing parties to pass legislation means it will force the CPC and the government/legislation towards the center, which is what i want.  If the Liberals win even a minority they will just keep ignoring the CPC in legislation and find a leftwing party like NDP/Bloc to pass their leftwing agenda.  This means no crazy rightwing CPC agenda, no crazy Liberal/NDP leftwing agenda.

2. Hold Trudeau and his ilk accountable.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2021, 08:55:01 pm »
Hold Trudeau and his elk accountable.

I wasn't aware of the elk.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #28 on: September 01, 2021, 02:42:29 pm »
DoFo came out today to land some haymakers on JT.

Why is there no Federal Vaccine Passport? Why do we have to wait until after this unneeded election?

Great question…. 

How does an Albertan get a vaccine passport for BC?  Why isn’t there a national standard for this?  The Feds definitely dropped the ball on this one.


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School Boards are beginning to deny EC from using their schools as polling places.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8157355/tcdsb-votes-against-allowing-polling-stations-in-schools/

I don't think I've ever voted in a place that wasn't a school.

My voting place is a community hall or a church. 

If medical experts say this will put kids at more risk in the schools, then they have very good reason not to have polling places there.  If not, then I think they’re on shaky ground.
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Re: 2021 Federal Election Culture (Waldo free)
« Reply #29 on: September 01, 2021, 10:44:19 pm »
Great question…. 

How does an Albertan get a vaccine passport for BC?  Why isn’t there a national standard for this?  The Feds definitely dropped the ball on this one.


OMG, I can't believe that thought never occurred to me.