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White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« on: April 27, 2019, 07:35:44 pm »
https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/john-earnest/

Hates Jews, kills Jews, lurks on hate forums on the internet.  Thinks Trump is a zionist.

But people aren't worried about this...

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2019, 10:47:14 pm »
Identity politics is fun yay.

I think people are starting to get very worried.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2019, 11:03:07 pm »
Identity politics is fun yay.
I think people are starting to get very worried.
Tell me about it. Spend a decade a more spreading hatred about whites and men and now the left is surprised that some young white men respond to hatred with hate and violence.

On top of that, you have the "taboo" nature of white supremacist movements so the media coverage only makes them more attractive to that segment of the population that finds breaking taboos appealing.

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2019, 11:15:26 pm »
Tell me about it. Spend a decade a more spreading hatred about whites and men and now the left is surprised that some young white men respond to hatred with hate and violence.

On top of that, you have the "taboo" nature of white supremacist movements so the media coverage only makes them more attractive to that segment of the population that finds breaking taboos appealing.

"Some young white men", like those "very good people" in Charlottesville?
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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2019, 12:43:36 am »
Tell me about it. Spend a decade a more spreading hatred about whites and men and now the left is surprised that some young white men respond to hatred with hate and violence.

On top of that, you have the "taboo" nature of white supremacist movements so the media coverage only makes them more attractive to that segment of the population that finds breaking taboos appealing.

Some of that is true, but I think most of it is simply certain white fringe people feel that "the other" is taking over "their country".  When people think their culture/tribe is under existential threat from outsiders some will arm themselves because they see it as a war.  Jews are no cultural/racial threat to westerners and they have a small on not very growing population, so I see that as simply the antisemites feeling emboldened.

The ones who cause violence really just do it out of rage.  I don't see any sign of strategy in the violence.

There's no way you're going to see an entire civilization become a minority over several decades without all sorts of violence.  This is likely the new normal.
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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2019, 02:07:59 am »
Jews are no cultural/racial threat to westerners and they have a small on not very growing population, so I see that as simply the antisemites feeling emboldened.
Like I said: I see it as angry young men embracing a social taboo. I find it hard to believe that resentment towards Jews is anything more than an unconscious attempt to imitate white supremacists from the past rather than a resentment arising from the actual life experiences.
 
There's no way you're going to see an entire civilization become a minority over several decades without all sorts of violence.  This is likely the new normal.
This is puzzling for me. A civilization is a culture not a race. When I meet/see young Canadians of any background embracing the pillars of western culture (free speech, democracy, scientific method, et. al.) then I see the culture continuing. I get concerned when I see so called Canadians rejecting those values even if they are white.

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2019, 05:22:05 am »
 

There's no way you're going to see an entire civilization become a minority over several decades without all sorts of violence.  This is likely the new normal.

It's not so simple.  The changes we're seeing are deeper than just more non-white people in a society that was largely white.  The entire way of thinking of 'us' and 'them' doesn't apply in the liberal world that we have become.  That's not a good thing, it's a great thing.  But politics and media that divides people is standing in the way.  Until people reject it (again) then we won't move forward.
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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2019, 08:20:49 am »
https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/john-earnest/

Hates Jews, kills Jews, lurks on hate forums on the internet.  Thinks Trump is a zionist.

But people aren't worried about this...

I have never understood why Jews are so hated in the World. Is it because of Christian antisemitism in the past?  Is it because of Muslim antisemitism today?  Or is it because people are jealous of Jews, since they place such a strong emphasis on education, and are the wealthiest ethnic group in the Western World?
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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2019, 08:27:47 am »
I have never understood why Jews are so hated in the World. Is it because of Christian antisemitism in the past?  Is it because of Muslim antisemitism today?  Or is it because people are jealous of Jews, since they place such a strong emphasis on education, and are the wealthiest ethnic group in the Western World?

The Jews were persecuted and persevered.  It's largely a leftover from that.

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2019, 07:55:36 pm »
I have never understood why Jews are so hated in the World. Is it because of Christian antisemitism in the past?  Is it because of Muslim antisemitism today?  Or is it because people are jealous of Jews, since they place such a strong emphasis on education, and are the wealthiest ethnic group in the Western World?

Certainly what MH said is one explanation and his explanation in further detail can be found at:

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/anti-semitism-in-the-21st-century/.


Here's another article that can give you an answer.

https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2016/04/28/why-people-hate-jews-and-the-rise-of-anti-semitism-today/

I think its a complex question with no easy answer but I would say this to you. Anti Semitism has mutated into a new version of an older version.

I think its easy today to use Israel as  a pretext to couch words that direct comments towards all Jews that facilitate the ability to be able to express hatred for Jews justifying it as only hatred of Israel. Usually that hatred though is expressed as a hatred of Israel being Jewish. You will see people say because Israel is a "Jewish" state that makes it "racist". No one calls the United Kingdom racist for being an Anglican state or the Vatican City being racist for being a Catholic state. No one calls Muslim states racist for being Muslim states or India racist for its connection to Hinduism.

So for we Jews we want to know, why is it that if a Jew wants to define himself through a national identity its racist but if a Muslim does it, its not. Have you ever heard those calling Israeli Jews Zionist racists ever say that about Anglicans in the United Kingdom or Muslims in Muslim states?

If you look to the way Jews are defined in Islam you will see we are defined as dhimmi and in the Arab world we are known as kafir, dirty people. We are defined as inferior not allowed to own land, have the same legal rights or live with Muslims. No one discusses that and says the Islamic religion as its practiced in law in many Muslim states defining Jews as dhimmi is apartheid racism-they will look the other way but they will call Jews who are Israeli racist for having a state. They will also claim calling a Jew a racist for defining his Jewishness through nationality is not a bigoted double standard against Jews-I call that a bigoted standard and a new form of anti Semitism-one which defines Jews as the only people on this planet not allowed to express themselves through a collective national identity.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2019, 08:43:30 pm »
Certainly what MH said is one explanation and his explanation in further detail can be found at:

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/anti-semitism-in-the-21st-century/.

I highly recommend Our Crowd which charts the migration of Jews from anti-Semitic Germany to New York in the 19th century.  You can't be an anti-semite after you read those stories.  Their own subjugation by prejudiced governments was the cause for their ultimate success in America.   

There probably isn't a word for kharma in Yiddish but this would be an example.  Mazel Tov, Jews.

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2019, 02:23:34 am »
Tell me about it. Spend a decade a more spreading hatred about whites and men and now the left is surprised that some young white men respond to hatred with hate and violence.

Wow.
You are frickin losing it TimG.

I've never heard of Jewish people spreading hatred about "white people and men".
So why are they being attacked?
Just the same old anti-Semitic white supremacy perhaps?

You aren't making much sense.
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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2019, 08:59:44 am »
Wow.
You are frickin losing it TimG.

I've never heard of Jewish people spreading hatred about "white people and men".
So why are they being attacked?
Just the same old anti-Semitic white supremacy perhaps?

You aren't making much sense.
You know, attacking hatred and oppression is apparently "spreading hatred." The Allies were "spreading hatred" for white male Germans during World War II. That's the logic Tim is using.

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Re: White Supremacy's Death Toll for 2019
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2019, 06:58:50 am »
https://globalnews.ca/news/5432851/canada-adds-neo-nazi-groups-blood-honour-and-combat-18-to-list-of-terror-organizations/
The government has, for the first time, placed right-wing extremist groups on its list of outlawed terrorist organizations, adding the names of Blood & Honour and Combat 18.