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Offline Montgomery

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Re: Trump Brings Home 2000 Troops!
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2020, 11:49:08 am »
Yep, Trump backed the US out of the JCPOA and then after having done so he thought he might just leave office by bombing Iran for increasing its nuclear capability. Like I say, even the likes of Pence/Pompeo saw just how ridiculous that would look on the world stage.

Well said Omni and essential correct, except that you characterize it rather poorly by suggesting that bombing Iran would look ridiculous. It deserves a better explanation than that!

The US's many wars of aggression haven't caused them to look 'ridiculous'. They always justify their wars and nearly always convince Nato countries to join in. Thereby turning themselves into the 'humanitarian' that bombs innocent civilians to save them.
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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2020, 11:53:09 am »
Well said Omni and essential correct, except that you characterize it rather poorly by suggesting that bombing Iran would look ridiculous. It deserves a better explanation than that!

The US's many wars of aggression haven't caused them to look 'ridiculous'. They always justify their wars and nearly always convince Nato countries to join in. Thereby turning themselves into the 'humanitarian' that bombs innocent civilians to save them.

Um, so you sign a nuclear arms control agreement, then you change government and unsign that agreement and then you threaten to bomb a country for not agreeing to the deal. If you don't think that looks ridiculous, then you need to seek a better understanding of the language.

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2020, 12:01:50 pm »
Um, so you sign a nuclear arms control agreement, then you change government and unsign that agreement and then you threaten to bomb a country for not agreeing to the deal. If you don't think that looks ridiculous, then you need to seek a better understanding of the language.

You're on the right track but your contrariness with me is interfering with your thinking process. When, or if the US decides to start a war with Iran, it will need to be accepted by the UN too, unless they become desperate as they were with the Kosovo war in which they had to settle with Nato. And it will require Canada's participation, which could hardly be characterized as ridiculous.

But I do get your point and appreciate your rational input, for the most part.
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« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2020, 12:13:57 pm »
What a pompous ass.
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« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2020, 12:18:50 pm »
You're on the right track but your contrariness with me is interfering with your thinking process. When, or if the US decides to start a war with Iran, it will need to be accepted by the UN too, unless they become desperate as they were with the Kosovo war in which they had to settle with Nato. And it will require Canada's participation, which could hardly be characterized as ridiculous.

But I do get your point and appreciate your rational input, for the most part.

Ah, no. My contrariness with you is due to your thinking process, or lack thereof in lieu of ridiculous arrogance we all see through. But carry on.

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« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2020, 12:32:57 pm »
Ah, no. My contrariness with you is due to your thinking process, or lack thereof in lieu of ridiculous arrogance we all see through. But carry on.

For the most part my arrogance is justified by the low intelligence spammers on this board and sometimes you come off as one of them and so deserve to be talked down to. However, on some topics it appears that you 'get it' and so more lenient treatment of you is justified.

Deal with your bad feelings you have about yourself, and show you are capable of taking a higher road when the spam twins take the low road, and we'll get along much better.

There's no other way Omni. And I'm not suggesting that I'll be happier if you start to act like a grownup. You're useful as a spammer too. It's your choice.
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« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2020, 12:47:06 pm »
For the most part my arrogance is justified by the low intelligence spammers on this board and sometimes you come off as one of them and so deserve to be talked down to. However, on some topics it appears that you 'get it' and so more lenient treatment of you is justified.

Deal with your bad feelings you have about yourself, and show you are capable of taking a higher road when the spam twins take the low road, and we'll get along much better.

There's no other way Omni. And I'm not suggesting that I'll be happier if you start to act like a grownup. You're useful as a spammer too. It's your choice.

Who the fuck do you think you are? You do not dictate to others what they can post here.
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2020, 12:47:53 pm »
For the most part my arrogance is justified by the low intelligence spammers on this board and sometimes you come off as one of them and so deserve to be talked down to. However, on some topics it appears that you 'get it' and so more lenient treatment of you is justified.

Deal with your bad feelings you have about yourself, and show you are capable of taking a higher road when the spam twins take the low road, and we'll get along much better.

There's no other way Omni. And I'm not suggesting that I'll be happier if you start to act like a grownup. You're useful as a spammer too. It's your choice.

With that I'll not waste my time and simply refer you back to Wilber's recent evaluation he posted.

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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2020, 01:09:52 pm »
With that I'll not waste my time and simply refer you back to Wilber's recent evaluation he posted.

Take all the time you need to deal with your hurt feelings.
Wilbur is irrelevant from now on.
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« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2020, 01:10:14 pm »
Backing out of Iran deal - NOT peaceful.

Not the wisest move, but how many died?

Simply compare the number of human beings Trump has ordered to their death with any other POTUS in US history.  This is why antiwar.com loves Trump.  Don't take my word for it.
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« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2020, 01:22:15 pm »
Take all the time you need to deal with your hurt feelings.
Wilbur is irrelevant from now on.

Sorry but Wilber is not the one here who is deemed irrelevant. Matter of fact I suspect his posts relating to yours is why your feelings are hurt. Oh well, you'll recover.

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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2020, 01:30:07 pm »
Why?  Saying something is "dumb" isn't an argument, but it is your go-to.

He is, shockingly, the most peace-loving POTUS internationally since at least before WWII.
Whether he's likeable or not is irrelevant to the facts.

Hundreds of dead Yemenis would beg to differ.
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Re: Trump Brings Home 2000 Troops!
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2020, 01:35:44 pm »
Not the wisest move, but how many died?

Simply compare the number of human beings Trump has ordered to their death with any other POTUS in US history.  This is why antiwar.com loves Trump.  Don't take my word for it.

Do you really know how many have died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, and other countries due to US foreign policy under the Trump regime? Trump is their president and he's responsible for their foreign policy. But there's no doubt that Trump has furthered a propaganda campaign to make it appear he's distanced himself from the US slaughter of innocents abroad.

Antiwar.com has always leaned Republican and so they lost a significant amount of their support years ago for that reason. But right now, you're mostly right, but not all right. There's a large faction there who are as truly antiwar as an Americans can get and they are the push behind articles that are critical of Trump.

You'll know that's true if your follow them at the least once a week.

Fwiw, the ignorant no-minds who shun antiwar.com, are probably not aware that their stories come in large part from first rate media sources.

Thanks for your help in coaxing some of them along!
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« Reply #28 on: November 18, 2020, 01:38:16 pm »
Hundreds of dead Yemenis would beg to differ.

Welome to our discussion Black Dog.

Yemenis are indeed just the tip of the iceberg. The slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan has hardly abated under Trump.
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« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2020, 02:00:18 pm »
Welome to our discussion Black Dog.

Yemenis are indeed just the tip of the iceberg. The slaughter in Iraq and Afghanistan has hardly abated under Trump.

Don't forget how president peaceful abandoned the Syrian Kurds to the tender mercies of the Turks.

"Peace" and "President" are two terms that simply cannot coexist.