Canadian Politics Today

Killing things with big guns is a masculine pursuit, so society tells us.  Adventure would be trouncing around remote and/or exotic places like African savannah and whatnot.  I never claimed it was dangerous.

I'm not saying I agree with it in any way whatsoever, I'm saying I see why these people do it.  They obviously do it for a reason:  adventure, power etc.

Adventure would be doing the same thing with a camera, without a guide with a big gun to back you up. Killing things just to feel power is sick.

I'm not against hunting at all, just killing for fun or ego building.

You do know that these millionaires pay huge dollars to do these hunts, these hunts are sanctioned by these governments who profit from these animal resources ,  ..... but also provide a source of income to guides , camp staff, local economy etc.....the meat is normally given to the locals to consume....you don't have to go all the way to africa to find these hunts they happen in Canada all the time, polar bear, grizzly bears, buffalo, salmon, moose , deer, you name it.....Money buys anything, including the heads of any animal ....it's an multi billion dollar industry...

The Miramichi river allows citizens to own the water way rights, meaning they own the fish in front of their property, if other want to fish their they have to pay the owner......

Did you know there is certain spots on the miramichi that regular Canadian citizens are not allow to fish, it is reserved for the PM and his close gang, so they can impress other political persons or VIP's ....most US presidents have fished there.

You are dead on. Me personally, I say what Omni did. I respect genuine hunters, i.e., people who live off the land for necessity. but sport hunting.... Look Robert is dead on sport hunting I appreciate is a big bucks business as he said that has some economic benefits true. Me personally I would like to take thoe same sports hunters and have them learn to respect the land they walk in not kill it by learning to take pictures of it with a camera or a pen and canvass rather than murdering it. Bare witness to its majesty don't kill it. Me personally I believe wildlife should be left alone and reserved for only those who kill it to eat because hunters who eat what they kill respect its soul.Well most I know.

Sports hunting is not necessity hunting. Its  a phenomena for city people out of touch with the soil who have been brought up to believe force and control of nature is the way to interact with it.

I don't like that notion myself. I was brought up to eat only what I needed. So I eat the berries, plants, certain fungus, fish, frogs, grasshoppers. I never needed to eat a bird, rabbit, posssum, moose, bear, deer like some do because its their necessary way of living.

I don't judge any genuine necessity hunter. ..its just I think people like me who live in cities have no business in the bush unless we show er respect it and leave it how we find it and understand we don't control it by killing it, but instead  by showing deference to it. To me hanging a head on a wall is a violation of an animal's spirit. So I myself would not do it. But that is my belief. I don't talk for anyone else.

I also spent time fishing in the Miramichi with MicMacs but as their guest. I don't go on land or water where there are spirits without their children's descendant's permission. No good comes of that. There is a lot of stuff people do not understand about the bush and the energy of life that is in it. Its a delicate balance and we who come from the city are used to loud  noise, air pollution, stomping are way onto things. The bush is about treading gently and quietly and not trying to confront and control the movement of the wind, smells, flow of the water or movement of animals.

I find sport hunters loud and invasive. I stared down a wolf once. More like a bush wolf. It was being a pain and eating a guy's chickens. Of course he was going to shoot it. I understood that. He thought I was an idiot but I swear to you I stared it down and it never came back. Not because it was afraid of me, but because I was afraid of it dying. People don't take the time to know the bush and animals.

Me I don't like seeing anything shot. Seen people dead after being shot. Don't like it. Dead things that don't die naturally but from stupid ignorance is as ugly and saddening as it gets.

Mountain goats man. Puffins. Hawks. Otters, Weasels. Badgers. Beaver. All kinds of stuff out there fascinating to watch. Before I die I want to see a Thunderbird, a wolverine, and a left wing bleading heart who knows how to properly peel a grasshopper and bbq it. The trick is  good garlic butter and maybe some lemon or lime. Prefer them to frog's legs or fish unless its trout, char, sardines, haddock, cod, mackerel, halibut, None of that pike or muskie or trout. Blech. Also leave bats alone. They kill millions of mosquitoes and they should not be eaten. People in Africa and Indonesia eat fruit bats. They should not. Its bad bad karma. Its like trying to eat a Koala bear, sloth. Also killing any animal that is pregnant is as low as it gets.

 

I think sport hunting is like sport fishing in that for most people what they catch or kill probably costs more than they could buy it for in a store. I like to fish but have never been big on hunting, although I don''t have a problem with those who do as long as they personally use what they kill.

I don’t hunt much anymore...   but if I go picking mushrooms out in the woods, I’ll bring a rifle in case I see a deer or a .410 for grouse. 

Is that “sport hunting”?  I can certainly afford to go to the grocery store and buy something that someone else killed after keeping it in crowded and cruel conditions, like most people do....      I’m curious where people would draw the line...

You eat what you kill. If you killed it and just left it to rot, maybe I have a problem with that. Sounds to me like you don't abuse wild life. Just my opinion. Its up to you to decide what life means and how to deal with it. I cast no judgments. Just seems to me if you eat it, that makes sense. I don't claim to speak for anyone but me. Also I love to fish. Sport fishermen eat what they catch and throw back undersize. Hunters who eat what they catch to me are not trophy hunters even if its not out of necessity. Anyone who eats what they catch usually knows what that means.  They don't just shoot the animal for a head. I have no problem with a lot of sport hunters because they get licenses and take the environment seriously and respect it. They respect the laws of nature and kill within a code of behaviour they follow. They for me are not in the same category as some jackass who hunts endangered wildlife.  Anyways like I said it comes down to the individual. I go to a grocery store and buy meat. Doesn't put me in a position to criticize anyone who kills an animal to eat it in one respect. I see the trucks drive buy with all the  pigs jammed in knowing they all have very high iq's and I say, who the phack am I. I have eaten pork, bacon. Its a very fine line how one deals with this.

I keep saying I am gonna stop eating all meat. Then I should shut the phack up and do so. Trophy hunters are all individuas. Each one has their reasons. Jut have them stay away from endangered species.

Respect what you said. I believe you respect what you kill and respect nature.  I am righteous on this issue and you have a right to point a finger at someone like me and say I aint any better than who I criticize- of course you would be right. For sure. I got no problems with people like you telling me I am equally as questionable if not more questionable in my behaviours by living in a city. You clearly respect nature-that is what it comes down to if you were to ask me.  Oh hell no, the antlers alone do not give me a right to **** on you and assume anything and I would not. I do not presume to tell you how to live. . I get that. I just think me and anyone who tortures and abuses any life including wildlife are a bunch of ****. I am no saint but I can't stand seeing drunk seasonal aholes disrespecting the forests. You sound like you know the bush as good as anyone. I would imagine I could learn a thing or two from you.

I just want to throw something out there , why is it that we only hate the trophy hunter,  because they kill an individual animal and hang it on the wall, what about all the others that are killing our wildlife wholesale.........clear cutting massive plots of land, oil sands project covers not only the land but billions of gallons of water, look at our ports why is it the water is unfit to support healthy wildlife, i remember at one time you could dig clams up at any beach, now that is closed, because of mercury and lead poisoning, Halifax has been dumping billions of raw sewage into the port for years....AHHH it's just some fish....yes the atlantic cod fishery has been all but closed for more than 20 years now....and while it is bouncing back....it's a slow process, we have to ask why....the mimichi is also closed to fishing, and will be for years to come, the fish are simply not coming back, regardless of all the conservation, methods, and hatcheries....out nation kills what ever it wants when ever it wants...no questions....some guy gets put on social media and we freak out.....The problem is humans , not trophy hunters....do i hunt every year, do i have a set of antlers over my garage yes i do.....do i enjoy a wild animals yes i do....,sometimes we can't see the forest from the trees....

No rue i am no better than you are...and i was not pointing any fingers at anyone, what i did was throw it out there that we as a race do more damage to the environment than any of these trophy hunters...and we shake it off as if it does not happen....

I don't know that we have factory ships and many countries had a hand in ruining the Atlantic fishery.   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbot_WarI think the problem people have with trophy hunting is the act of killing just to inflate someones ego. At least that's my issue with it.