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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #375 on: May 18, 2022, 04:12:41 pm »
What valid point are they making?

"Whites as a share of the population are declining" is a true statement.

Everything else that follows that is probably gonna be bunk.

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« Reply #376 on: May 18, 2022, 04:15:16 pm »
"Whites as a share of the population are declining" is a true statement.

Everything else that follows that is probably gonna be bunk.

Yes, as a factual statement, it’s valid.   And yes, I agree with your 2nd part too.

However, is that the actual point of why they’re saying that?   Of course not.  I’d like to hear from Graham what valid point he thinks they’re making…

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« Reply #377 on: May 18, 2022, 04:27:17 pm »
Yes, as a factual statement, it’s valid.   And yes, I agree with your 2nd part too.

However, is that the actual point of why they’re saying that?   Of course not.  I’d like to hear from Graham what valid point he thinks they’re making…

Yeah I forgot the part where he said "brown people are replacing white people" is a valid point, even though it's absolute dogshit since that implies a direct substitution instead of two populations going in different directions. Like if I have two apples and two oranges and I add two more apples, I'm not "replacing" the oranges.
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #378 on: May 18, 2022, 04:50:01 pm »
What valid point are they making?

The factual demographic statistic that the population of white people is shrinking and the population of POC is increasing.
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« Reply #379 on: May 18, 2022, 04:57:30 pm »
The factual demographic statistic that the population of white people is shrinking and the population of POC is increasing.

You really think that’s the entirety of their point?  They are only pointing out a demographic fact, and not making any value judgements?

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #380 on: May 18, 2022, 04:58:44 pm »
The factual demographic statistic that the population of white people is shrinking and the population of POC is increasing.

That's not what you said though.

You said said "brown people are replacing white people" would be a valid point which isn't the same thing.

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« Reply #381 on: May 18, 2022, 05:07:36 pm »
You really think that’s the entirety of their point?  They are only pointing out a demographic fact, and not making any value judgements?

I think it's possible to talk about demographic trends and their potential electoral implications without making any sort of value judgements, but again, that's not the problem here and not related to the stuff Tucker and his Nazi pals are spouting.

Once again our resident moderate centrist is arguing about abstract principles when the devil is of course in the details.
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« Reply #382 on: May 18, 2022, 05:12:32 pm »
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People jokingly cheering a comedy monologue is Nazi sh*t? Lol nice bothsidesing attempt. 

Racism is hilarious.

Also, you need to get out of Alberta more often.  There's just as many racists among POC as among white people.  Not to mention the white people who hate their own skin color.

I actually feel pretty bad for black people (me) because according to all the non- white friends I have every ethnic group seems to contain dislike for black people the most of all races.

Anyways, I hate all of this nonsense   America and Canada are not nation-states founded on ethnicity, they are multicultural by nature.  What should worry us more is countries like France and Italy etc where their nation-states are founded on ethnic identity.  There's lots of far-right sentiment in Europe now.  Canada has mostly accepted multiculturalism and the US will at least accept a white minority eventually, besides the Nazi fringe who will keep killing people.
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #383 on: May 18, 2022, 05:21:23 pm »
Racism is hilarious.

It is when it's aimed at white people like you, yes.

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Anyways, I hate all of this nonsense   America and Canada are not nation-states founded on ethnicity, they are multicultural by nature.  What should worry us more is countries like France and Italy etc where their nation-states are founded on ethnic identity.  There's lots of far-right sentiment in Europe now.  Canada has mostly accepted multiculturalism and the US will at least accept a white minority eventually, besides the Nazi fringe who will keep killing people.

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Read a history book, I beg you.


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« Reply #384 on: May 18, 2022, 05:28:44 pm »

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Read a history book, I beg you.

1800s Canada was very multicultural….  Voting was allowed by all the important ethnic groups….   English whites…. Scottish whites…. French whites…. 

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« Reply #385 on: May 18, 2022, 08:01:12 pm »
1800s Canada was very multicultural….  Voting was allowed by all the important ethnic groups….   English whites…. Scottish whites…. French whites….

These are different cultures.  There's no "Canadian culture" that rules Canada, or which Canada was founded upon.  Its a nation of nations.  You can't say that about the vast majority of other countries in Europe or Asia.  If you think Canada is a "white country" then congrats you're on the side of the white nationalists.
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« Reply #386 on: May 18, 2022, 08:45:14 pm »
These are different cultures.  There's no "Canadian culture" that rules Canada, or which Canada was founded upon.  Its a nation of nations.  You can't say that about the vast majority of other countries in Europe or Asia.  If you think Canada is a "white country" then congrats you're on the side of the white nationalists.

Until 1960, indigenous people had to give up their Indian status if they wanted to vote.
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« Reply #387 on: May 18, 2022, 09:21:21 pm »
These are different cultures.  There's no "Canadian culture" that rules Canada, or which Canada was founded upon.  Its a nation of nations.  You can't say that about the vast majority of other countries in Europe or Asia.  If you think Canada is a "white country" then congrats you're on the side of the white nationalists.

Why should I be concerned that Canada is becoming less white?

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« Reply #388 on: May 18, 2022, 09:56:00 pm »
Why should I be concerned that Canada is becoming less white?

Uhh I never said you should.  In fact I said the opposite.
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« Reply #389 on: May 18, 2022, 09:59:50 pm »
Until 1960, indigenous people had to give up their Indian status if they wanted to vote.

I didn't say Canada was never racist.

Again, if your argument is that Canada was founded as a white nationalist nation-state you're just giving ammo to the white nationalists in Canada.
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