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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #300 on: May 13, 2022, 03:50:57 pm »
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #301 on: May 13, 2022, 03:52:18 pm »
Quote from: Black Dog

“Canada is the largest per capita receiver of new immigrants in the entire world.”-Stephen Harper, Sept. 8, 2015


And then Trudeau gov raised those levels by 50% and reduced citizenship requirements.
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« Reply #302 on: May 13, 2022, 03:56:54 pm »

And then Trudeau gov raised those levels by 50% and reduced citizenship requirements.

Did the immigrants that came in when Harper was PM vote for Harper? 

Or does this conspiracy just go the one way?
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« Reply #303 on: May 13, 2022, 04:11:55 pm »
Did the immigrants that came in when Harper was PM vote for Harper? 

Good question - side question is if immigrants vote Liberal why didn't Harper stop immigration ?
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« Reply #304 on: May 13, 2022, 04:23:18 pm »


And then Trudeau gov raised those levels by 50% and reduced citizenship requirements.

What these guys said:

Did the immigrants that came in when Harper was PM vote for Harper? 

Or does this conspiracy just go the one way?

Good question - side question is if immigrants vote Liberal why didn't Harper stop immigration ?


Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #305 on: May 13, 2022, 05:01:57 pm »
Did the immigrants that came in when Harper was PM vote for Harper? 

Or does this conspiracy just go the one way?

Harper didn't raise immigration numbers and he made citizenship harder to get.  As a % of the population immigration probably went down during the Harper years.
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #306 on: May 13, 2022, 06:38:25 pm »
Harper didn't raise immigration numbers and he made citizenship harder to get.  As a % of the population immigration probably went down during the Harper years.

https://www.thewalrus-factchecking.com/post/fact-check-is-the-liberal-government-rapidly-increasing-immigration-levels-in-canada

The numbers did indeed go up during Harper's tenure.  Not uniformly of course

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« Reply #307 on: May 13, 2022, 07:44:10 pm »
https://www.thewalrus-factchecking.com/post/fact-check-is-the-liberal-government-rapidly-increasing-immigration-levels-in-canada

The numbers did indeed go up during Harper's tenure.  Not uniformly of course

New immigrants per population was flat during the Harper years.  260k welcomed in 2014.  405k last year, and ever-rising.  Trudeau has increased it by over 50% and it was the plan all along:  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-mccallum-substantially-increase-immigration-labour-shortages-1.3718831
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #308 on: May 13, 2022, 08:34:17 pm »
Read the article.  It went up and down.

More to the point, nobody said anything when it went up.

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« Reply #309 on: May 13, 2022, 09:07:12 pm »
Read the article.  It went up and down.

More to the point, nobody said anything when it went up.

The immigration rate stayed the same under Harper.  It was the same since the early 90's until Trudeau.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #310 on: May 14, 2022, 09:05:08 am »
 How do you resolve that with what the article says?

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« Reply #311 on: May 14, 2022, 10:42:39 am »
How do you resolve that with what the article says?

What does it say?
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« Reply #312 on: May 14, 2022, 12:57:31 pm »
In 1911 our population was 7 million. Canada badly needed people. Birth rates are low but do we really need so many now?
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« Reply #313 on: May 14, 2022, 02:03:14 pm »
In 1911 our population was 7 million. Canada badly needed people. Birth rates are low but do we really need so many now?

Ironically a huge reason people have less kids is because life is so expensive. An extra bedroom is hundreds of thousands of dollars. Salaries haven’t kept up with inflation so both parents need to work.

We then favour immigrants who enrich the country (obviously that makes sense) but a side effect is they make life even more expensive for those already here, including first generation immigrants.

I don’t know why we don’t work on making things more affordable for families, making higher education available to everyone instead importing educated people.

The status quo seems to be a short term fix.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #314 on: May 14, 2022, 06:04:24 pm »
What special rights?

Special rights for a fetus that a 5 year old doesn’t have to be able to use another human being’s body against their will. 

If a 5 year old can’t have their parent’s blood without their consent, why should a fetus?