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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #180 on: December 30, 2021, 03:36:34 pm »
I agree with your post, k, but I'm not triggered.

I'm just asking how to counter this.

What's to counter?  Redneck US Rep sends out redneck Christmas card to redneck constituents?  Is this something that needs a response?

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #181 on: December 30, 2021, 05:37:02 pm »
I agree with your post, k, but I'm not triggered.

I'm just asking how to counter this.

You're basically asking how to make Americans not Americans.

Canadians might think similarly to some people in ie: LA or NYC, but much of the US just thinks differently than us.  I even know people from California and NY state who live outside the big metropolises who are very "American" in their thinking.  There's nothing anyone can do, Americans are not Canadians and aren't like Europeans on issues like guns, lockdowns, and vaccines.  Their country was born out of anti-government violent revolution and the country was founded on and its institutions built upon a distrust of government and overreach of the state.

Canadians are much more compliant to gov authority, for better or worse.
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #182 on: December 30, 2021, 09:00:41 pm »
What's to counter?  Redneck US Rep sends out redneck Christmas card to redneck constituents?  Is this something that needs a response?

 -k

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #183 on: December 30, 2021, 09:03:04 pm »
1. You're basically asking how to make Americans not Americans.

2. Canadians might think similarly to some people in ie: LA or NYC, but much of the US just thinks differently than us.  I even know people from California and NY state who live outside the big metropolises who are very "American" in their thinking. 
3. There's nothing anyone can do, Americans are not Canadians and aren't like Europeans on issues like guns, lockdowns, and vaccines.  Their country was born out of anti-government violent revolution and the country was founded on and its institutions built upon a distrust of government and overreach of the state.

 
1. I think probably more Americans think this is stupid than think it's a great idea.
2. It's not about guns so much as making imagery that is designed to provoke people.  Like this 'Let's go Brandon' thing - I saw something from an American righty that had HIM triggered because somebody said it to Biden and he didn't even know what it was.
3. Well, things are changing in ways that you don't perceive, it seems.  Like I say, it's about provocation...

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« Reply #184 on: December 30, 2021, 09:06:36 pm »
Canadians are much more compliant to gov authority, for better or worse.
Compliance to authority is an overstatment. I think we're just more committed to why its important to have a government in the first place.  We're less quick to throw the baby out with the bathwater however tempting the urge may be.
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« Reply #185 on: December 31, 2021, 01:24:04 am »


member kimmy, are you serious... gunnies have at least... at least... 6 court challenges to the related legislation introducing firearm reclassification, to the buyback program, etc.. And you somehow expect the federal government to proceed while ignoring these active legislation challenges? Surely you can't be that stoopid - yes?

setting that oh so 'hot' pic of the gunnie girls aside, care to comment on the heelarious name of the CCFR... the sadsack org that has the temerity to claim Canadians have Firearm Rights? Perhaps you could also comment on its most boisterous positioning for US-style gun policies for Canada; most notably open carry in rural areas and concealed carry in Canadian cities. Those are your peeps, hey member kimmy!

as for the Nova Scotia multiple shootings/killings, again, surely you're not so stoopid as to expect details/full transparency in the face of:
=> an ongoing Public Inquiry that is scheduled to deliver its findings 'mid 2022'
=> ongoing/active police investigations
=> multiple lawsuits

What's to counter?  Redneck US Rep sends out redneck Christmas card to redneck constituents?  Is this something that needs a response?

the waldo trusts member MH's 'countering response' focus is in terms of how that type of gross American gun culture messaging permeates into Canada... and most particularly how you and your fellow gunnies here embrace it. That your only comment on the photo itself is to flippantly tout gun 'trigger discipline' is most telling - about you!

by the by, above on a like theme, I copied in a prior post from another thread... one you either missed or, more likely, ran away from!
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #186 on: December 31, 2021, 02:41:30 pm »


the waldo trusts member MH's 'countering response' focus is in terms of how that type of gross American gun culture messaging permeates into Canada... and most particularly how you and your fellow gunnies here embrace it. That your only comment on the photo itself is to flippantly tout gun 'trigger discipline' is most telling - about you!

by the by, above on a like theme, I copied in a prior post from another thread... one you either missed or, more likely, ran away from!
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #187 on: December 31, 2021, 05:48:18 pm »
What’s the problem?

Pictures of gun people holding guns on a gun girl gun calendar.... will likely include....

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GUNS
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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #188 on: January 09, 2022, 03:23:58 pm »
the waldo trusts member MH's 'countering response' focus is in terms of how that type of gross American gun culture messaging permeates into Canada... and most particularly how you and your fellow gunnies here embrace it. That your only comment on the photo itself is to flippantly tout gun 'trigger discipline' is most telling - about you!

Is that what you were trying to express, MH? You were concerned that this Kentucky politician's Christmas photo was promoting gun culture in Canada?

If that's the case, why is your concern over gun culture focused on rural people with long guns? The large majority of gun violence in Canada isn't committed in rural areas by people with rifles.  It's committed in big cities by people with handguns.

Blaming people who look like this...

 ...or this...

...for gun violence in Canada is just more scapegoating of people who the Liberals aren't afraid to offend and deflecting attention away from people who the Liberals are afraid to offend.

by the by, above on a like theme, I copied in a prior post from another thread... one you either missed or, more likely, ran away from!

 Patience, bud.  I will get to it.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #189 on: February 22, 2022, 03:38:57 pm »
Another right-wing terror attack in the U.S.A.

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“He talked about wanting to go shoot commies and antifa all the friggin‘ time,” Christenson told OPB. “He was just a sad angry dude. … He talked about wanting to do this for a while. He was angry at the mask mandates, he was angry at the damned liberals.”

Sounds just like our resident right wing nut, someone who consumes a steady diet of disinformation and fear mongering and is themselves consumed by it.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #190 on: February 23, 2022, 12:09:59 pm »
Republican Rick Scott has released an "11 point plan to save America". It says nothing about how to improve schools, support families, help small businesses, lower drug prices, rebuild crumbling infrastructure, or address the racial divide. Instead, it is hyper focused on the culture war and slashing public services even further while increasing taxes for lower income Americans. This is not a serious political document, but a perfect encapsulation of the state of the conservative movement, which is to say it's completely insane. Dems need to hammer the hell out of this lunacy.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #191 on: February 23, 2022, 12:18:17 pm »
Republican Rick Scott has released an "11 point plan to save America". It says nothing about how to improve schools, support families, help small businesses, lower drug prices, rebuild crumbling infrastructure, or address the racial divide. Instead, it is hyper focused on the culture war and slashing public services even further while increasing taxes for lower income Americans. This is not a serious political document, but a perfect encapsulation of the state of the conservative movement, which is to say it's completely insane. Dems need to hammer the hell out of this lunacy.

Let's see:

1. Our kids will say the pledge of allegiance,
salute the Flag, learn that America is a great
country, and choose the school that best fits
them.

2. Government will never again ask American
citizens to disclose their race, ethnicity,
or skin color on any government forms.

3. The soft-on-crime days of coddling criminal
behavior will end. We will re-fund and
respect the police because they, not the
criminals, are the good guys.

4. We will secure our border, finish building
the wall, and name it after President Donald
Trump.

5. We will grow America’s economy, starve
Washington’s economy, and stop Socialism.

6. We will eliminate all federal programs that
can be done locally, and enact term limits
for federal bureaucrats and Congress.

7. We will protect the integrity of American
Democracy and stop left-wing efforts to
rig elections.

8. We will protect, defend, and promote the
American Family at all costs.

9. Men are men, women are women, and
unborn babies are babies. We believe in
science.

10. Americans will be free to welcome God
into all aspects of our lives

11. We are Americans, not globalists

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #192 on: February 23, 2022, 12:19:26 pm »
5. 6. and 11. seem like they could have policy implications, but ... not really.

Trump spent sky-high amounts, reduced taxes and kicked the deficit into high gear.  No doubt that that would resume with these guys.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #193 on: February 23, 2022, 12:24:20 pm »
One of my favourite bits is the education section where it says "Public schools will focus on the 3 R’s, not indoctrinate children with critical race theory or any other political ideology" right before it talks about making kids "say the Pledge of Allegiance, stand for the National Anthem, and honor the American Flag" and "Public schools will teach our
children to love America because, while not perfect, it is exceptional, it is good, and it is a beacon of freedom in an often-dark world." Of course all of this will be done at the state level since he wants to eliminate the federal department of education. It's incoherent. It'd be funny if the whole thing didn't reek so much of fascism.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #194 on: February 23, 2022, 02:01:03 pm »
1. One of my favourite bits is the education section where it says "Public schools will focus on the 3 R’s, not indoctrinate children with critical race theory or any other political ideology" right before it talks about making kids "say the Pledge of Allegiance, stand for the National Anthem, and honor the American Flag" and "Public schools will teach our
children to love America because, while not perfect, it is exceptional, it is good, and it is a beacon of freedom in an often-dark world." Of course all of this will be done at the state level since he wants to eliminate the federal department of education. It's incoherent. It'd be funny if the whole thing didn't reek so much of fascism.

1. Well I always thought it was weird that Communist countries had 'Ministry of Propaganda'... maybe they are just more self aware than the US and A