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« Reply #570 on: September 26, 2022, 09:16:47 am »
A country whose class consciousness is dormant might indeed be awoken by the likes of trump. Even if this is incorrect, It's interesting.

Again it depends on using a very narrow definition of "working class" that excludes anyone who isn't a non-college educated suburban white.

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« Reply #571 on: September 26, 2022, 09:55:05 am »
Again it depends on using a very narrow definition of "working class" that excludes anyone who isn't a non-college educated suburban white.

Interesting take but still seems apt to me... are public perceptions of working class valid even if they're tropes ?

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« Reply #572 on: September 26, 2022, 10:02:54 am »
Interesting take but still seems apt to me... are public perceptions of working class valid even if they're tropes ?

I feel like we've had this conversation before, but in the west, the term "working class" has lost most of its real meaning and is just about aesthetics now.

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« Reply #573 on: September 26, 2022, 10:35:17 am »
I feel like we've had this conversation before, but in the west, the term "working class" has lost most of its real meaning and is just about aesthetics now.

Fair enough ... and I think the left also doesn't know how to apply this view on modern working but... if that's what's left then maybe that is what we have.

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« Reply #574 on: September 26, 2022, 11:28:49 am »

MAGA is not a working class movement these guys are morons.
Complete and utter nonsense.  Democrats have abandoned the working class.  They’ve shifted toward Republicans over the last few years, as Democrats have become out of touch with working people.  They’re now essentially a party of white, college educated woke women.
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« Reply #575 on: September 26, 2022, 11:59:47 am »
Complete and utter nonsense.  Democrats have abandoned the working class.  They’ve shifted toward Republicans over the last few years, as Democrats have become out of touch with working people.  They’re now essentially a party of white, college educated woke women.

What are the 'concerns' of working class people and what should they be ?

I concur tat they are concerned about wokeness but I believe they should be more concerned about the replacement of the trickle down theory with the divine rights of the ruling class.

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« Reply #576 on: September 26, 2022, 12:43:13 pm »
Complete and utter nonsense.  Democrats have abandoned the working class.  They’ve shifted toward Republicans over the last few years, as Democrats have become out of touch with working people.  They’re now essentially a party of white, college educated woke women.

Wow, someone woke up extra stupid this fine Monday morning.

In 2020, 85% of voters who cast a ballot for Trump were White vs 61% for Biden. 92% of Black voters, 69% of Hispanics and 72% of Asian voters went for Biden. Income wise, 57% of Americans making less than $50K a year went for Biden while 54% of those making more than $100K went for Trump. Democrat voters are economically, ethnically and racially diverse. Republican voters are old, wealthy and white.
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« Reply #577 on: September 26, 2022, 12:59:30 pm »
Wow, someone woke up extra stupid this fine Monday morning.

In 2020, 85% of voters who cast a ballot for Trump were White vs 61% for Biden. 92% of Black voters, 69% of Hispanics and 72% of Asian voters went for Biden. Income wise, 57% of Americans making less than $50K a year went for Biden while 54% of those making more than $100K went for Trump. Democrat voters are economically, ethnically and racially diverse. Republican voters are old, wealthy and white.

https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2021/demo/p60-273.html#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20real%20median%20earnings,and%20Table%20A%2D6).

Median Wages for Americans.

I stand corrected on this point.

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #578 on: September 26, 2022, 02:03:19 pm »
Well, with the midterms coming up, the House GOP finally released a platform and I gotta say it's surprisingly detailed and positive.

Just kidding, it's a package of vague promises and culture war sloganeering.

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The “Commitment to America” outline, for example, assures voters that Republicans will “protect the lives of unborn children.” How? Perhaps by pursuing some kind of national abortion ban? They did not — and, more to the point, would not — include any details, well aware of the fact that most Americans support reproductive rights and rejected the Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade.

GOP lawmakers also apparently intend to “save and strengthen” Social Security and Medicare. I’m sure that fared well in the party’s focus groups, but what does it mean? Will the social insurance programs be “saved and strengthened” by way of benefit cuts? Republicans don’t want to talk about it — because if they did, a whole lot of mainstream voters would run the other way.

The “Commitment to America” outline also lets us know that a far-right House GOP majority would “curb wasteful government spending,” without mentioning what spending the party considers “wasteful.” This was coupled with a promise of "pro-growth" tax policies, without any explanation of what that might entail or how many more breaks the party intends to throw at millionaires and billionaires.

As part of the same pitch, Republican leaders told the public today on the “Commitment to America” website: “[A]fter more than a year of crushing inflation, Democrats still have no plan to solve it.” Indifferent to the irony, the GOP’s own plan references some bumper sticker-style slogans, but it does not include a plan to address inflation.

The problem(s) with the Republicans’ new ‘Commitment to America’

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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #579 on: September 28, 2022, 10:01:38 am »
In light of recent events this gave me a bit of a dry chuckle: Flights from Florida to Boston fill up as Hurricane Ian approaches


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Re: The sad state of the (UN) United States
« Reply #580 on: October 04, 2022, 09:05:34 am »
I've been enjoying the Hershel Walker candidacy. He seems like the perfect GOP candidate. A pro-life funder of his girlfriends' abortions with other secret children all over the place that he lied about and neglected. He's awesome. ☺️

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« Reply #581 on: October 04, 2022, 09:35:14 am »
I've been enjoying the Hershel Walker candidacy. He seems like the perfect GOP candidate. A pro-life funder of his girlfriends' abortions with other secret children all over the place that he lied about and neglected. He's awesome. ☺️
I'm enjoying the John Fetterman candidacy in Pennsylvania.  He's the Democrat that has trouble completing sentences, has a giant growth of some sort on his neck. 

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« Reply #582 on: October 04, 2022, 09:40:05 am »
I'm enjoying the John Fetterman candidacy in Pennsylvania.  He's the Democrat that has trouble completing sentences, has a giant growth of some sort on his neck.

You like the puppy-murdering snake oil salesman better, you assclown?

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« Reply #583 on: October 04, 2022, 09:43:18 am »
I'm enjoying the John Fetterman candidacy in Pennsylvania.  He's the Democrat that has trouble completing sentences, has a giant growth of some sort on his neck.
Did your mother teach you to disparage people based on their illnesses? She must be very classy.

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« Reply #584 on: October 04, 2022, 09:57:57 am »
Did your mother teach you to disparage people based on their illnesses? She must be very classy.
Only when they try to cover it up.  I also enjoyed the recent story of him chasing down a Black man with his shotgun when he thought the man was breaking the law.