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« Reply #255 on: November 09, 2022, 08:46:38 am »
I guess ?  This likely means Donnie will go after him guns-a-blazin' tho
Most likely.  I think DeSantis is smart enough to dismiss it and focus on campaigning.  Plus, most Trump supporters like DeSantis, so Iím not sure that strategy will work the way it did in 2016.

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« Reply #256 on: November 09, 2022, 08:59:50 am »
Depends on what dirt Trump has. Could be pretty good.

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« Reply #257 on: November 09, 2022, 09:12:16 am »
Pretty clear that the strategy is to make unimportant social issues into platforms and ignore things like economic disparity and especially disunity.

It might work as long as FOX dominates news coverage.
What, you mean that Republicans screeching about "critical race theory" (something that Republicans probably can't understand, much less define) and pointing out the horror of the evil brown people coming across the border (even though Florida doesn't share a border with mexico) are "unimportant issues"?

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« Reply #258 on: November 09, 2022, 11:37:39 am »
No doubt Desantis made inroads with Latinos, including conservative gusanos, but I'd like to see a shred of evidence he did well with Black voters.
He doesn't have to do well with black voters. He just has to suppress their votes enough.

(Remember the stunt they played with ex-felons... a group where black males are disproportionally represented. In a referendum florida voters said they should have voting rights restored. So the republicans in the state changed the rules to have released felons re-classified based on whether they had paid some fees.... and then wouldn't tell a bunch of them how much they owed.)

My hope... Deathsantis will have is little fiefdom in Florida (because Florida be cray-cray). Republicans will think he's the next greatest thing in politics because of his success in Florida, but when he tries to run for president he gets rejected in a general election because the rest of the country recognizes him for the hard-right blowhard that he is.

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« Reply #259 on: November 09, 2022, 12:21:40 pm »
He doesn't have to do well with black voters. He just has to suppress their votes enough.

(Remember the stunt they played with ex-felons... a group where black males are disproportionally represented. In a referendum florida voters said they should have voting rights restored. So the republicans in the state changed the rules to have released felons re-classified based on whether they had paid some fees.... and then wouldn't tell a bunch of them how much they owed.)

My hope... Deathsantis will have is little fiefdom in Florida (because Florida be cray-cray). Republicans will think he's the next greatest thing in politics because of his success in Florida, but when he tries to run for president he gets rejected in a general election because the rest of the country recognizes him for the hard-right blowhard that he is.
DeSantis has national appeal.  Much more so than any Democrat.

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Re: The Ron DeSantis Thread
« Reply #260 on: November 09, 2022, 01:23:16 pm »
Only if you're a far-right wannabe frat-boy.

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« Reply #261 on: November 09, 2022, 01:37:19 pm »
Only if you're a far-right wannabe frat-boy.
Nah.  Mainly if you enjoy freedom.  Thatís why so many people are moving from New York and California to Florida.

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« Reply #262 on: November 09, 2022, 01:41:00 pm »
Wouldn't be the first time this has happened. Remember Scott Walker? The thing about RDS is, you watch the guy speak and he's got negative charisma. He's got JV basketball team waterboy energy.And of course, he's bereft of any policy ideas beyond "call everything woke" and i just don't think that plays on the national stage.
And something else to consider...

The opponent for Deathsantis was Crist, who had been a former Republican turned Democrat. You have to wonder if that might have been a turn-off for a few potential Democratic voters... "Why vote at all if the choice is between a Republican fascist and Republican-lite... one calorie, not fascist enough". (Crist has chanced many of his policies since he was a republican, but some might think it makes him sort of bandwagon opportunist.)

I am sure that's not the only reason the republicans won, but its also a reason they should be skeptical about using it as a measure of how popular Deathsantis is overall.


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« Reply #263 on: November 09, 2022, 01:55:16 pm »
And something else to consider...

The opponent for Deathsantis was Crist, who had been a former Republican turned Democrat. You have to wonder if that might have been a turn-off for a few potential Democratic voters... "Why vote at all if the choice is between a Republican fascist and Republican-lite... one calorie, not fascist enough". (Crist has chanced many of his policies since he was a republican, but some might think it makes him sort of bandwagon opportunist.)

I am sure that's not the only reason the republicans won, but its also a reason they should be skeptical about using it as a measure of how popular Deathsantis is overall.
Complete and utter nonsense.

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« Reply #264 on: November 09, 2022, 02:01:33 pm »
Some polling information...

Granted, a lot can change between now and the 2024 election. (And we still don't know if Stubby Mcbonespurs will be running, or instead spending time in court or better yet prison). But in various head-to-head matchups:

From: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

Oct 11: Desantis beats Newsom by 2
Sep 7: Harris beats Desantis by 3
Sep 7: Biden beats Desantis by 5
Aug 31: Biden beats Desantis by 5
Aug 19: Biden beats Desantis by 23
Aug 18: Biden beats Desantis by between 1 and 21 points (depending on the poll)
July 28: Biden beats Desantis by between 3 and 4 points (depending on the poll)
July 27: Harris beats Desantis by 1

(The dates are for the start date of the polls)

So the only person Desantis could in theory beat at this time is Newsom (Gov. of California), who at this time doesn't seem to have a very big national profile. He loses to Biden in every poll going back to mid-summer (despite the fact that Biden's approval rating is below 50%). He even loses to Harris (who is widely seen as a disappointment as VP.)




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Re: The Ron DeSantis Thread
« Reply #265 on: November 09, 2022, 02:04:22 pm »
Anyway I don't think Desantis has the juice to be a viable national candidate, but President Brandon should have the CIA assassinate him anyway, just in case.
Couldn't the FBI just plant some fake classified documents on him and get him arrested?

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« Reply #266 on: November 09, 2022, 02:07:28 pm »
Some polling information...

Granted, a lot can change between now and the 2024 election. (And we still don't know if Stubby Mcbonespurs will be running, or instead spending time in court or better yet prison). But in various head-to-head matchups:

From: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

Oct 11: Desantis beats Newsom by 2
Sep 7: Harris beats Desantis by 3
Sep 7: Biden beats Desantis by 5
Aug 31: Biden beats Desantis by 5
Aug 19: Biden beats Desantis by 23
Aug 18: Biden beats Desantis by between 1 and 21 points (depending on the poll)
July 28: Biden beats Desantis by between 3 and 4 points (depending on the poll)
July 27: Harris beats Desantis by 1

(The dates are for the start date of the polls)

So the only person Desantis could in theory beat at this time is Newsom (Gov. of California), who at this time doesn't seem to have a very big national profile. He loses to Biden in every poll going back to mid-summer (despite the fact that Biden's approval rating is below 50%). He even loses to Harris (who is widely seen as a disappointment as VP.)
These are completely meaningless. 

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Re: The Ron DeSantis Thread
« Reply #267 on: November 09, 2022, 02:16:35 pm »
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Couldn't the FBI just plant some fake classified documents on him and get him arrested?
Nah do him like they did Bobby Kennedy.
I don't know... sounds pretty 1960s to me. You have to change with the times.

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Re: The Ron DeSantis Thread
« Reply #268 on: November 22, 2022, 05:24:00 pm »
Huh how about that.

Florida prosecutors drop case against Tampa man accused by Gov. DeSantis of voter fraud

Deathsantis can't be worried about that, when he has immigration problems to waste money on!

From: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article268914087.html
Gov. Ron DeSantisí administration has so far paid more than $1.56 million to a politically connected contractor for a program to fly migrants from Texas to northeastern states...Florida-based Vertol Systems Company, was quoted a total price of roughly $153,000...That leaves about $1.4 million in Florida taxpayer funds unaccounted for.

Yet somehow republicans like to claim that they are someone the ones to control wasteful government spending.


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« Reply #269 on: November 22, 2022, 05:27:38 pm »
Deathsantis can't be worried about that, when he has immigration problems to waste money on!

From: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article268914087.html
Gov. Ron DeSantisí administration has so far paid more than $1.56 million to a politically connected contractor for a program to fly migrants from Texas to northeastern states...Florida-based Vertol Systems Company, was quoted a total price of roughly $153,000...That leaves about $1.4 million in Florida taxpayer funds unaccounted for.

Yet somehow republicans like to claim that they are someone the ones to control wasteful government spending.
Wait till you find out that Trudeau spent $54 million dollars on an app! 😂
Now you care about tax payers huh? 😂