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« Reply #315 on: February 07, 2023, 10:53:06 pm »
We'll have to see how much discipline DeSantis has.  The good thing is, the more he has, the more insane Trump is going to get with his attacks.  It's going to be enormous fun either way.
Here's the thing... it doesn't matter how much discipline Ron Deathsentence has.

You see, Trump has cult followers... ones who continue to believe he "tells it like it is". Deathsentence does have significant support in the party, but at this moment it appears to be more a case of "He can win" or "we like his racist policies and he doesn't tweet like Trump". He could be swapped out with any pro-fascist republican and people will still probably react the same.

Trump is unlikely to win in a general election in 2024 (assuming he even runs and isn't in jail at the time). This is the case whether he actually responds to the attacks or ignores them. So regardless of how Desantis reacts, its not going to change the outcome in the general election. Meanwhile at least some of the cult MAGAchud will believe trump, probably enough to scuttle the chance of any other republican who decides to challenge Trump.

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« Reply #316 on: February 07, 2023, 11:04:11 pm »
That’s not fair, when has Trump ever lied?

You're kidding right?
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« Reply #317 on: February 08, 2023, 12:06:25 am »
Here's the thing... it doesn't matter how much discipline Ron Deathsentence has.

You see, Trump has cult followers... ones who continue to believe he "tells it like it is". Deathsentence does have significant support in the party, but at this moment it appears to be more a case of "He can win" or "we like his racist policies and he doesn't tweet like Trump". He could be swapped out with any pro-fascist republican and people will still probably react the same.

Trump is unlikely to win in a general election in 2024 (assuming he even runs and isn't in jail at the time). This is the case whether he actually responds to the attacks or ignores them. So regardless of how Desantis reacts, its not going to change the outcome in the general election. Meanwhile at least some of the cult MAGAchud will believe trump, probably enough to scuttle the chance of any other republican who decides to challenge Trump.

I didn't mean it might change the outcome.  I meant it's going to be fun to watch.  And if Trump's response to Biden's State of the Union address on Truth Social is anything to go by, we're not going to be disappointed.

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« Reply #318 on: February 08, 2023, 01:10:07 am »
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I didn't mean it might change the outcome.  I meant it's going to be fun to watch.
Oh, I agree its going to be great fun.

All those republicans who loyally stood by Trump through 2 impeachments and a myriad of crimes, only to find that in the end he's willing to burn it all down.

You have to wonder if republicans like Moscow Mitch are secretly praying for the DoJ or the Georgia prosecutor to bring charges against Trump just so they can get him out of the way.

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« Reply #319 on: February 18, 2023, 06:15:20 am »
Don't those boots and makeup qualify as drag? What kind of lady heels are those? Isn't that illegal now in Florida?


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« Reply #320 on: March 02, 2023, 09:27:07 am »
A little good news... it seems like the current infighting within the republican party is continuing. (Which means there is a good chance that whomever the eventual nominee is, they won't be getting full support within the party, potentially making it a bit easier for a democrat to win.)

From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/01/ron-desantis-tyrant-trump-supporters-book-signing
Ron DeSantis is a “tyrant”, the far-right activist Laura Loomer said, after she and other Trump supporters were barred from a book signing staged by the Florida governor.

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« Reply #321 on: March 06, 2023, 12:38:13 pm »
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« Reply #322 on: March 18, 2023, 07:50:04 pm »
As Trump nicknames go, I much prefer "Meatball Ron" to "Disanctimonious". He sort of looks like a meatball.

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« Reply #323 on: March 18, 2023, 09:27:37 pm »
As Trump nicknames go, I much prefer "Meatball Ron" to "Disanctimonious". He sort of looks like a meatball.
I agree.  If I were DesSantis, I’d run with it and serve meatball subs at my campaign events! 😂
Poor Don has definitely lost his fastball.

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« Reply #324 on: March 19, 2023, 10:45:48 am »
https://harpers.org/archive/2023/03/ron-desantis-force-feedings-guantanamo-bay-laughing/

Article alleges that DeSantis oversaw torture.

DeSantis Florida is turning into the Fourth Reich.

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« Reply #325 on: March 30, 2023, 08:47:45 am »
Poor Ron got humiliated by Disney in their legal manoeuvres. Now all he can do is promise to spend millions and millions of taxpayers' money on lawyers before they even get to the really expensive free speech challenge he will obviously lose.

How come Republicans' legal counsel is so bad? Remember when some of them even thought you can overturn an election by getting the vice president to reject it? 😂

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« Reply #326 on: March 30, 2023, 09:42:19 am »
Either they don't listen or they hire yes men I guess.

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« Reply #327 on: March 30, 2023, 10:31:44 am »
Poor Ron got humiliated by Disney in their legal manoeuvres. Now all he can do is promise to spend millions and millions of taxpayers' money on lawyers before they even get to the really expensive free speech challenge he will obviously lose.

How come Republicans' legal counsel is so bad? Remember when some of them even thought you can overturn an election by getting the vice president to reject it? 😂
A private company receiving special tax treatment from the government has nothing to do with free speech.

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« Reply #328 on: March 30, 2023, 10:40:58 am »
A few more problems for Desantis...

From: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/29/fox-poll-trump-desantis-00089593
A new Fox News poll released Wednesday showed former President Donald Trump widening his lead over Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in a hypothetical GOP primary race. Trump was the top pick for 54 percent of respondents, who were asked to choose from a list of potential 2024 Republican presidential nominees. DeSantis — who has yet to declare his candidacy, though he is widely expected to — came in as a distant second pick, with 24 percent of the vote.... The Fox poll was one of a handful released in recent days that show the former president widening his lead over DeSantis. In a Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday, Trump had the support of 47 percent of Republican and Republican-leaning voters, well above DeSantis’ 33 percent. A Morning Consult survey from earlier this month showed Trump with a 54-to-26 percent lead over DeSantis among potential GOP primary voters.

Ok, Fox may not necessarily be the most reliable news source out there, but their results line up with other more reliable polling firms.

And then there is this:

From: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/poll-signature-desantis-policies-unpopular-with-americans-ahead-of-likely-presidential-run-220406760.html
The new survey shows that more Americans oppose than favor seven out of eight signature policies put forward by DeSantis in Florida, with support ranging from 36% (for requiring public school books to be reviewed for content “the government deems inappropriate”) to a low of 21% (for “granting political appointees the power to fire tenured faculty members at public colleges and universities at any time and for any reason”). On foreign policy, meanwhile, DeSantis doesn’t fare much better.

From: https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-policies-might-come-back-to-bite-him-even-in-a-primary-2023-3
A recent poll from YouGov and Yahoo News highlighted this dynamic and showed that as supporters of DeSantis learned more about his policies, the less willing they were to vote for him....The pollster then asked respondents about eight of the policies that DeSantis has championed as governor, but didn't note the relation to DeSantis. More respondents opposed seven of eight of DeSantis' policies than favored them
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(policies included Covid practices, critical race theory, book bans, gun control and abortion.)
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After inquiring about each of DeSantis' policies, the pollster told respondents that "All of the proposals from the previous question have been put forward or signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.... it appears that DeSantis supporters were less likely to vote for him after learning about his policies.


So his chance of winning the republican primary is dropping, and even if he does manage to become the nominee he has a lot of political baggage that will probably see him lose in the general election.

Looks like the Republican party might have to find another fascist to take up the cause.

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Re: The Ron DeSantis Thread
« Reply #329 on: March 30, 2023, 10:44:48 am »
A private company receiving special tax treatment from the government has nothing to do with free speech.
But Disantis made it very clear he was taking this action because of their speech.