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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #675 on: January 22, 2021, 10:45:25 am »
If anyone thought Trump losing and being humiliated on the way out would give Republicans second thoughts about carrying on down the path they are on, think again.

It's fascinating to see them completely abandon any pretence of having any kind of vision or principles and just keep pushing fear, victimhood and division.
The link given goes to a tweet by Rubio...
A radical leftist agenda in a divided country will not help unify our country, it will only confirm 75 million Americans biggest fears about the new administration

The hypocrisy in this tweet is just amazing... complaining about the "divided country", while simultaneously labeling Biden's actions as "radical leftist".


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« Reply #676 on: January 22, 2021, 10:50:04 am »
The link given goes to a tweet by Rubio...
A radical leftist agenda in a divided country will not help unify our country, it will only confirm 75 million Americans biggest fears about the new administration

The hypocrisy in this tweet is just amazing... complaining about the "divided country", while simultaneously labeling Biden's actions as "radical leftist".

Unity to them means "only doing what we want."

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« Reply #677 on: January 22, 2021, 11:56:25 am »
Unity to them means "only doing what we want."

I think that applies to both ends of the political spectrum. It's the ones closer to the middle who are more likely to compromise for the common good.
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« Reply #678 on: January 22, 2021, 12:05:41 pm »
I think that applies to both ends of the political spectrum. It's the ones closer to the middle who are more likely to compromise for the common good.

nah. The ones in the middle are more likely to stand for nothing at all (see Obama, Barack).

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« Reply #679 on: January 22, 2021, 12:13:27 pm »
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Unity to them means "only doing what we want."
I think that applies to both ends of the political spectrum. It's the ones closer to the middle who are more likely to compromise for the common good.
There may be some truth to that.

The problem is that:

- The Democrats have such moderates that would have been willing to work with republicans. (Just look at the type of discussion that Obama had over the Affordable Care act... hours of debate in congress, allowing Republicans to have their say)

- Republicans, on the other hand, have been extremely unwilling to engage in any sort of bipartisanship. They voted as a block to reject Trump's first impeachment, they allowed the Republican Tax cuts for Millionaires (and almost passed their health care plan) on a united basis (even bypassing most of the discussion in congress that should have occurred). Even supposed moderates like Ben Sasse were quite willing to go along with the extreme partisanship when it was the republicans who were in complete control.
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« Reply #680 on: January 22, 2021, 02:09:52 pm »
I think that applies to both ends of the political spectrum. It's the ones closer to the middle who are more likely to compromise for the common good.

Only one party has been calling for the overthrow of a perfectly legit election.  Only one party’s supporters tried to perform a coup and assassinate their opposition from both parties.

So, now those folks who did that are calling for “unity”?   Do you not see how astronomically stupid that is? 

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« Reply #681 on: January 22, 2021, 03:05:56 pm »
Only one party has been calling for the overthrow of a perfectly legit election.  Only one party’s supporters tried to perform a coup and assassinate their opposition from both parties.

So, now those folks who did that are calling for “unity”?   Do you not see how astronomically stupid that is?

BLM and Antifa have indulged in a lot of mayhem and destruction.

If the Republican hypocrites want unity they should put up or shut up.

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« Reply #682 on: January 22, 2021, 03:08:58 pm »
BLM and Antifa have indulged in a lot of mayhem and destruction.

If the Republican hypocrites want unity they should put up or shut up.

Please cite a single Democratic politician who has endorsed, incited or encouraged any mayhem or destruction from BLM protestors.
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« Reply #683 on: January 22, 2021, 03:09:34 pm »
BLM and Antifa have indulged in a lot of mayhem and destruction.

If the Republican hypocrites want unity they should put up or shut up.

BLM and antifa aren't the Democrats dude.
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« Reply #684 on: January 22, 2021, 03:12:33 pm »
BLM and antifa aren't the Democrats dude.

Well it's pretty debatable whether those people attacking the Capitol represented Republicans either.
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« Reply #685 on: January 22, 2021, 03:17:58 pm »
Well it's pretty debatable whether those people attacking the Capitol represented Republicans either.

No. No it's not.

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« Reply #686 on: January 22, 2021, 03:25:09 pm »
No. No it's not.

I would like for someone to articulate 'association' vs. 'representation' .... it would solve a lot of arguments.

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« Reply #687 on: January 22, 2021, 03:29:18 pm »
Well it's pretty debatable whether those people attacking the Capitol represented Republicans either.

So no Republican, president, president’s people, Congressmen, or senators incited or encouraged any of the conspiracy theory nonsense that led to the insurrection attempt? 
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« Reply #688 on: January 22, 2021, 03:33:21 pm »
I would like for someone to articulate 'association' vs. 'representation' .... it would solve a lot of arguments.

Well, there were many capitol criminals directly associated with the Republican party as members or voters while the mob overall was representative of the widespread Republican belief (held by about 70% of the GOP) that the election was rigged.
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« Reply #689 on: January 22, 2021, 03:34:54 pm »
Well it's pretty debatable whether those people attacking the Capitol represented Republicans either.
Well, prior to the riot, the majority of Republicans believed the election was stolen.

Furthermore, despite Trump playing a role in the terrorist activities at the Capitol, only 5% of Trump voters said they regret their selection. The vast majority either were happier that they voted for Trump, or it made no difference.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/17/poll-trump-blame-capitol-rioting-459923
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