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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #540 on: January 08, 2021, 03:52:28 pm »
Watched Biden's press conference. He is done with Trump since Wednesday. When asked about Trump not attending the Inaugural he said that is one of the only things he and Trump agree on. When asked about Pence attending, Biden said he would be very welcome. He absolutely trashed Cruz, Hawley etc while being very complimentary to other Republicans who had reached out to him, mentioning McConnell and Romney by name.


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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #541 on: January 08, 2021, 03:55:53 pm »

Is there an eyeroll emoji?

Why, do prefer continual warfare or do you think things should actually get done?
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #542 on: January 08, 2021, 03:56:27 pm »
Watched Biden's press conference. He is done with Trump since Wednesday. When asked about Trump not attending the Inaugural he said that is one of the only things he and Trump agree on. When asked about Pence attending, Biden said he would be very welcome. He absolutely trashed Cruz, Hawley etc while being very complimentary to other Republicans who had reached out to him, mentioning McConnell and Romney by name.

I watched a good portion of it as well and I must conclude that, even as not an American, I look forward to a chance for a return to normalcy when Biden takes the helm.

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #543 on: January 08, 2021, 03:58:48 pm »
Why, do prefer continual warfare or do you think things should actually get done?

Continual warfare has served the Republicans just fine for the last 12 years, why are the Democrats always the ones who have to compromise?

I mean praising Mitch f*ckin McConnell after everything he's pulled? That's some snivelling worm stuff right there.

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #544 on: January 08, 2021, 04:07:55 pm »
Continual warfare has served the Republicans just fine for the last 12 years, why are the Democrats always the ones who have to compromise?

I mean praising Mitch f*ckin McConnell after everything he's pulled? That's some snivelling worm stuff right there.

I despise McConnell as well but I have the luxury of not having to work with him.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #545 on: January 08, 2021, 04:09:05 pm »
Re: Biden being 'nice' to certain republicans...
Why, do prefer continual warfare or do you think things should actually get done?
For the past decade, the republicans have been hyper-partisan. (For an example, look at how judicial confirmations were handled. Or the way the republican health care plan was crafted as compared to Obamacare.) While republicans like Moscow Mitch may seem reasonable now, it is really just empty rhetoric. The moment congress gets back to business, any pretense of bipartisanship on their part will have vanished, and Biden will have to deal with obstructionist republicans.

Democrats need to play hardball. They won't get any sort of co-operation from the republican side.

Hopefully Biden recognizes that, and his comments about the republicans who "reached out to him" were just as empty as the rhetoric that was coming from the likes of Moscow Mitch.
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« Reply #546 on: January 08, 2021, 04:12:55 pm »
I despise McConnell as well but I have the luxury of not having to work with him.

Do you think McConnell is someone they can actually work with?

There was a bit in Obama's recent memoir where he and Biden were trying to get Mitch onboard with some piece of legislation by explaining its benefits and McConnell's response was "why would you think I give a ****?"

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #547 on: January 08, 2021, 04:16:18 pm »
Re: Biden being 'nice' to certain republicans...For the past decade, the republicans have been hyper-partisan. (For an example, look at how judicial confirmations were handled. Or the way the republican health care plan was crafted as compared to Obamacare.) While republicans like Moscow Mitch may seem reasonable now, it is really just empty rhetoric. The moment congress gets back to business, any pretense of bipartisanship on their part will have vanished, and Biden will have to deal with obstructionist republicans.

Democrats need to play hardball. They won't get any sort of co-operation from the republican side.

Hopefully Biden recognizes that, and his comments about the republicans who "reached out to him" were just as empty as the rhetoric that was coming from the likes of Moscow Mitch.

Maybe they will see how bad that is for them and the country and will work with Joe and also Lucy will for sure let me kick the football this time!

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« Reply #548 on: January 08, 2021, 04:28:26 pm »
Re: Biden being 'nice' to certain republicans...For the past decade, the republicans have been hyper-partisan. (For an example, look at how judicial confirmations were handled. Or the way the republican health care plan was crafted as compared to Obamacare.) While republicans like Moscow Mitch may seem reasonable now, it is really just empty rhetoric. The moment congress gets back to business, any pretense of bipartisanship on their part will have vanished, and Biden will have to deal with obstructionist republicans.

Democrats need to play hardball. They won't get any sort of co-operation from the republican side.

Hopefully Biden recognizes that, and his comments about the republicans who "reached out to him" were just as empty as the rhetoric that was coming from the likes of Moscow Mitch.
Complete nonsense.  Nanjing Nancy refused to make a deal on covid relief during the fall because she thought it would help Democrats in the election.  She’s as f**king despicable and partisan as it gets.  Democrats also filibustered Bush judicial nominees and then removed the judicial filibuster as soon as they had the chance when Obama was president. 
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« Reply #549 on: January 08, 2021, 04:35:36 pm »
Complete nonsense.  Nanjing Nancy refused to make a deal on covid relief during the fall because she thought it would help Democrats in the election.  She’s as f**king despicable and partisan as it gets.  Democrats also filibustered Bush judicial nominees and then removed the judicial filibuster as soon as they had the chance when Obama was president.

"Waaah it's mean when the other side does the stuff we do all the time waaaah."
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #550 on: January 08, 2021, 04:55:28 pm »
Why, do prefer continual warfare or do you think things should actually get done?

Mentioning Romney is one thing, but McConnell doesn't deserve any recognition for accepting Biden a month after the election. 

Especially now that the turtle just got demoted, there is zero need to reach out to him now after all the BS he pulled with SCOTUS. 

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« Reply #551 on: January 08, 2021, 05:12:25 pm »
Mentioning Romney is one thing, but McConnell doesn't deserve any recognition for accepting Biden a month after the election. 

Especially now that the turtle just got demoted, there is zero need to reach out to him now after all the BS he pulled with SCOTUS.

McConnell has plenty of problems in his own party, catering to the crazies is no longer a winning strategy. Even though the Democrats control the Senate the Republicans can still be very obstructive and a more malleable McConnell wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, he might also get turfed as Republican Senate leader. The Republicans are in such a shambles, anything can happen.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #552 on: January 08, 2021, 05:51:42 pm »
McConnell has plenty of problems in his own party, catering to the crazies is no longer a winning strategy. Even though the Democrats control the Senate the Republicans can still be very obstructive and a more malleable McConnell wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, he might also get turfed as Republican Senate leader. The Republicans are in such a shambles, anything can happen.
It would not matter whether Biden praised McConnell, telling him how wonderful he was and that he was a credit to all turtles everywhere, or called McConnell out for his B.S., pointing out that he enabled Trump for the past 4 years, and deserves some of the blame for the deaths at the capitol...

Moscow Mitch will always act in the best interests of Moscow Mitch and the Republicans. They have no interest in compromise, or in what's best for the country. If that means blocking Biden's proposed legislature for no other reason than its from the Democrats, then he will do so.

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #553 on: January 08, 2021, 05:53:36 pm »
McConnell has plenty of problems in his own party, catering to the crazies is no longer a winning strategy. Even though the Democrats control the Senate the Republicans can still be very obstructive and a more malleable McConnell wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, he might also get turfed as Republican Senate leader. The Republicans are in such a shambles, anything can happen.

Except the Republicans have zero incentive to work with Biden and the Dems and every reason to try and undercut them every step of the way so they can win in the mid terms and 2024.

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #554 on: January 08, 2021, 06:07:48 pm »
McConnell has plenty of problems in his own party, catering to the crazies is no longer a winning strategy. Even though the Democrats control the Senate the Republicans can still be very obstructive and a more malleable McConnell wouldn't hurt. On the other hand, he might also get turfed as Republican Senate leader. The Republicans are in such a shambles, anything can happen.

Democrats hold all the cards, they don't need Republicans for anything now that they have both chambers and the executive. 

I don't see things changing for a while either, not because the Democrats are popular, but because Trump destroyed the GOP.  The base hates anyone who didn't support the seditionists and the seditionists lost the respect of moderates and independents.

Romney didn't wait until the house was on fire to show courage, it makes sense to reach out to him.

McConnell should GFH.