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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #480 on: December 23, 2020, 08:02:50 pm »
;D these "supposed emails" were on that most suspect laptop that the "good samaritan" repair shop owner turned over to ColludyRudy! Geezaz member Shady, you're such a simpleton!

Whoa whoa, is that a conspiracy theory?
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« Reply #481 on: December 23, 2020, 11:53:51 pm »
;D these "supposed emails" were on that most suspect laptop that the "good samaritan" repair shop owner turned over to ColludyRudy! Geezaz member Shady, you're such a simpleton!
Whoa whoa, is that a conspiracy theory?

as delving in conspiracy is your demonstrated forte, you need to describe it as the waldo deals in, 'just the facts man'!

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« Reply #482 on: December 24, 2020, 08:59:07 am »
Whoa whoa, is that a conspiracy theory?
Sure sounds like it!  Doesn't sound like the FBI buys that lame excuse though.
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« Reply #483 on: December 24, 2020, 10:25:15 am »
as delving in conspiracy is your demonstrated forte, you need to describe it as the waldo deals in, 'just the facts man'!

Well ConspiracyWaldo, you don't deal in facts, your demonstrated forte is memes.  "Just the memes man!"  ConspiracyWaldo, don't forget the Trump-inspired insulting nicknames, and now the conspiracy theories.  ;D
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« Reply #484 on: December 24, 2020, 10:44:44 am »
c'mon Gorgeous! You called conspiracy... the waldo is simply asking you to describe your stated/claimed conspiracy. Instead you're feverishly deflecting away - is there a problem, for you?
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #485 on: December 24, 2020, 02:05:53 pm »
New definition of conspiracy theory: asking for proof of another conspiracy theory
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« Reply #486 on: December 24, 2020, 02:29:22 pm »
New definition of conspiracy theory: asking for proof of another conspiracy theory
Like Russia collusion right!
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #487 on: December 24, 2020, 03:03:08 pm »
Like Russia collusion right!

The left:  Russia collusion!  The right: a hoax!

The right:  Voter fraud in America!  The left:  a hoax!

Interesting times we live in.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #488 on: December 24, 2020, 07:08:50 pm »
The left:  Russia collusion!  The right: a hoax!

The right:  Voter fraud in America!  The left:  a hoax!

Interesting times we live in.

One happened, one didn't (in any meaningful way). It isn't that interesting.
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« Reply #489 on: December 26, 2020, 05:22:58 pm »
The left:  Russia collusion!  The right: a hoax!
Not exactly correct...

Keep in mind that the Senate (which, as you know, is largely controlled by Moscow Mitch, and has a republican majority) has put out a report which stated that Russia did interfere in the 2016 election.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election
Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference in the 2016 United States presidential election...is the official report in five volumes documenting the findings and conclusions of the United States Senate Intelligence Committee into Russian efforts against election infrastructure...The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".

It is true that there are a lot of MAGAchuds who are parroting Trump's claim that it was a hoax, but republican politicians are admitting that yeah, Russia was involved. I think its speaks volumes when Republican senators admit that. (i.e. its not just Democrats saying "russia interfered".)

Now, it is too bad that the republicans are sort of burring this information in a report (rather than trying to challenge Trump).
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The right:  Voter fraud in America!  The left:  a hoax!
"To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."
- Bill Barr, Att. General (nominated by Trump, and confirmed by Republican senators)

Again, a lot of republicans have admitted that Trump lost fair-and-square.


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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #490 on: December 26, 2020, 05:45:22 pm »
One happened, one didn't (in any meaningful way). It isn't that interesting.

Thank you for proving my point.

Russian collusion happened?  Do you have evidence for this claim?

I still think it still may have happened, but I have no evidence for that claim.
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« Reply #491 on: December 26, 2020, 05:46:21 pm »
Not exactly correct...

Keep in mind that the Senate (which, as you know, is largely controlled by Moscow Mitch, and has a republican majority) has put out a report which stated that Russia did interfere in the 2016 election.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election
Senate Intelligence Committee report on Russian interference in the 2016 United States presidential election...is the official report in five volumes documenting the findings and conclusions of the United States Senate Intelligence Committee into Russian efforts against election infrastructure...The Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee submitted the first in their five-volume report in July 2019 in which they concluded that the January 2017 intelligence community assessment alleging Russian interference was "coherent and well-constructed". The first volume also concluded that the assessment was "proper", learning from analysts that there was "no politically motivated pressure to reach specific conclusions".

It is true that there are a lot of MAGAchuds who are parroting Trump's claim that it was a hoax, but republican politicians are admitting that yeah, Russia was involved. I think its speaks volumes when Republican senators admit that. (i.e. its not just Democrats saying "russia interfered".)

Now, it is too bad that the republicans are sort of burring this information in a report (rather than trying to challenge Trump). "To date, we have not seen fraud on a scale that could have effected a different outcome in the election."
- Bill Barr, Att. General (nominated by Trump, and confirmed by Republican senators)

Again, a lot of republicans have admitted that Trump lost fair-and-square.

None of this has anything to do with my point.  Russia interference is totally different than the Trump admin colluding with Russia per that interference.
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« Reply #492 on: December 26, 2020, 05:58:17 pm »
None of this has anything to do with my point.  Russia interference is totally different than the Trump admin colluding with Russia per that interference.
Actually if you read further in the Wikipedia article, it points out that:

According to the report, "some evidence suggests" that Konstantin Kilimnik, to whom Manafort provided polling data, was directly connected to the Russian theft of Clinton-campaign emails. In addition, while Trump's written testimony in the Mueller report stated that he did not recall speaking with Roger Stone about WikiLeaks, the Senate report concludes that "Trump did, in fact, speak with Stone about WikiLeaks and with members of his Campaign about Stone's access to WikiLeaks on multiple occasions".

Now it isn't labelled "collusion" (which would be the wrong legal term anyways... should likely be labelled "conspiracy".) But it does point out very specific incidents of the Trump administration working with Russian actors.

And again, keep in mind that that is from a report from an organization dominated by Republicans... i.e. the people that benefitted most from having Stubby McBonespurs in the white house. If they actually had any sort of integrity, they might have dug a lot deeper.
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« Reply #493 on: December 26, 2020, 06:23:54 pm »
Now it isn't labelled "collusion" (which would be the wrong legal term anyways... should likely be labelled "conspiracy".) But it does point out very specific incidents of the Trump administration working with Russian actors.

And again, keep in mind that that is from a report from an organization dominated by Republicans... i.e. the people that benefitted most from having Stubby McBonespurs in the white house. If they actually had any sort of integrity, they might have dug a lot deeper.

Something very fishy was happening between the Trump campaign and the Russians.  The exact specific nature of this activity still seems...obscured.  The likelihood of collusion or some other kind wrongdoing seems high.  I think the impeachment was the right thing to do.  I'm saying we just still don't have evidence.  There's no smoking gun, hence he was not removed from office.  Maybe one day we'll find out.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #494 on: December 26, 2020, 06:30:04 pm »
Something very fishy was happening between the Trump campaign and the Russians.  The exact specific nature of this activity still seems...obscured.  The likelihood of collusion or some other kind wrongdoing seems high.  I think the impeachment was the right thing to do.  I'm saying we just still don't have evidence.  There's no smoking gun, hence he was not removed from office.  Maybe one day we'll find out.

He was not removed from office because his party wingnuts control the senate, ergo no conviction.