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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #375 on: October 31, 2020, 11:55:29 am »
Not caring which one of them wins is quite comforting. The feeling is free for the taking to others too if they consider that US domestic policy is of little importance to the outside world, while their foreign policy wouldn't be more positive for the world with either of them winning.

To stop and think carefully about recent US foreign policy, Trump may even come out on the plus side.

Trump is only a symptom of America's malfeasance and it's turn toward fascism.

Relax everybody!
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« Reply #376 on: October 31, 2020, 12:15:21 pm »
Dems in full panic mode now in Florida, as per CNN.

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1322347422387965960?s=21

I suspect the Repubs are increasing their turnout to vote is because they realize the sad state of their leaders affairs. For instqance just yesterday the covid19 pandemic, which he recently claimed he had contained, set a new world record on infections. With over 100,000 new cases it even beat India, which has around 4 times the population. so there's one blatant, and dangerous lie, and then his BS about doctors using covid as a cause of death as a way to make more money has been completely debunked. What a horrible thing to say about healthcare pro's who take risks to help others. I guess those gullible enough to buy his crap will believe anything he says. 

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« Reply #377 on: October 31, 2020, 12:29:49 pm »
It would be so interesting to see a professional non-biased study done to establish all of the factors that have caused the cases to spike to nearly 100,000.
Anybody feel they could make a list of factors without bias against Trump?

Population density? Americans' attitudes of false freedom to do as they please? More testing than other countries? Trump spreader events? Cooking the books? Others?

None of which would seem to be able to do it alone.
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« Reply #378 on: October 31, 2020, 12:43:20 pm »
It would be so interesting to see a professional non-biased study done to establish all of the factors that have caused the cases to spike to nearly 100,000.
Anybody feel they could make a list of factors without bias against Trump?

Population density? Americans' attitudes of false freedom to do as they please? More testing than other countries? Trump spreader events? Cooking the books? Others?

None of which would seem to be able to do it alone.

Mask mandates reduce cases and saves lives. 


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State policies mandating public or community use of face masks or covers in mitigating the spread of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) are hotly contested. This study provides evidence from a natural experiment on the effects of state government mandates for face mask use in public issued by fifteen states plus Washington, D.C., between April 8 and May 15, 2020. The research design is an event study examining changes in the daily county-level COVID-19 growth rates between March 31 and May 22, 2020. Mandating face mask use in public is associated with a decline in the daily COVID-19 growth rate by 0.9, 1.1, 1.4, 1.7, and 2.0 percentage points in 1–5, 6–10, 11–15, 16–20, and 21 or more days after state face mask orders were signed, respectively. Estimates suggest that as a result of the implementation of these mandates, more than 200,000 COVID-19 cases were averted by May 22, 2020. The findings suggest that requiring face mask use in public could help in mitigating the spread of COVID-19.
https://www.healthaffairs.org/doi/full/10.1377/hlthaff.2020.00818

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #379 on: October 31, 2020, 12:54:54 pm »
Mask mandates reduce cases and lives. 



I'm curious to hear how that relates to my question squid?

It really doesn't so far. Get a grip or I'll just continue to ignore you for being a nuisance.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #381 on: October 31, 2020, 06:29:08 pm »
Joe Biden wants you to know that badakathcare is a right!

https://twitter.com/kamvtv/status/1322658022964023296?s=21
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« Reply #382 on: October 31, 2020, 06:52:37 pm »
Joe Biden wants you to know that badakathcare is a right!

https://twitter.com/kamvtv/status/1322658022964023296?s=21
Trump said he had a health care plan. What happened? Is he losing touch with what's going on around him?
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« Reply #383 on: October 31, 2020, 08:42:32 pm »
Trump said he had a health care plan. What happened? Is he losing touch with what's going on around him?

Trump's health plan is no health plan.
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« Reply #384 on: November 01, 2020, 08:39:08 am »
Trump's health plan is no health plan.
Fact checked false.  4 Pinocchio’s.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #385 on: November 01, 2020, 10:01:29 am »
You have to cite the plan to win. Otherwise you lose.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #386 on: November 01, 2020, 10:26:20 am »
Fact checked false.  4 Pinocchio’s.

Really? What is it?
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« Reply #387 on: November 01, 2020, 10:27:28 am »
Trump said he had a health care plan. What happened? Is he losing touch with what's going on around him?
He’s waiting after the election to let people know.  Kinda like Biden is doing with court packing etc.
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« Reply #388 on: November 01, 2020, 10:42:29 am »
Really? What is it?
There are several proposals to make changes to the current system.  One is to remove the anti trust exemption that health insurance companies currently receive.  This would allow competition across state lines, removing the monopoly some companies have in some states.  There are other proposals as well.  Like this one.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1245276

Regardless, under a Trump executive order, all covid health care costs are covered by the government.  Nobody has to pay a penny if they need treatment for coronavirus.  That being said, it’s congress that writes the law not presidents.  Trump or Biden can have all the plans they want.  Congress has to agree.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #389 on: November 01, 2020, 10:57:05 am »
That being said, it’s congress that writes the law not presidents.  Trump or Biden can have all the plans they want.  Congress has to agree.

member Shady, you should have led with this... and then gone silent! For example, Trumpy's continued nattering about 'protecting pre-existing conditions'... through an executive order... is nothing but packagedBS. On one hand you have O'Care, as law, providing that protection; on the TrumpHand you have a meaningless executive order saying, "we'd like to do this"!