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« Reply #225 on: October 23, 2020, 05:28:35 pm »
Biden’s gaffe about ending the oil industry isn’t going to go over well in battleground states.  His campaign is already playing clean up.  Biden’s gonna turn every state into running blackout California!
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« Reply #226 on: October 23, 2020, 05:31:18 pm »
Big fat Biden lie.  I didn’t say I was against fracking!  Oops!
Even CNN says Trump was correct.
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« Reply #227 on: October 23, 2020, 06:43:18 pm »
Big fat Biden lie.  I didn’t say I was against fracking!  Oops!

uber-partisans like you struggle with context! Emphasis was either with a reference to 'federal lands'... or... in regard to longer-term transitioning.

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« Reply #228 on: October 23, 2020, 08:18:45 pm »
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The Borat video is a complete fabrication. I was tucking in my shirt after taking off the recording equipment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Si-mROtAE&feature=emb_logo

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« Reply #229 on: October 23, 2020, 08:53:01 pm »
What's destroying the US is corrupt money in their politics. 

If they want to change the electoral college and the Senate formula or admit Puerto Rico etc that's fine, but if big money remains in the system it won't do much because both parties are paid off very handsomely by corporate interests. Bernie Sanders should be POTUS.
The money at stake certainly isn't helping but lets face it the US screwed itself by getting way too full of its own exceptionalism. I mean we're talking about a nation in which millions of people earnestly believe the penning of their Constitution, like the bible, was the result of God Himself moving thru the people who penned it. And if religiosity wasn't enough much of the rest of the marketplace of ideas is saturated with the sort of cocked-up nonsense that would make the editors of the National Enquirer blush.

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« Reply #230 on: October 23, 2020, 09:03:58 pm »
uber-partisans like you struggle with context! Emphasis was either with a reference to 'federal lands'... or... in regard to longer-term transitioning.
He is being mealy-mouthed though - clearly and sadly, struggling against wanting to embrace and unabashedly declare that yes, fracking like most fossil fuels, has to go and the sooner the better.

It sucks to be on a planet where so much candy coating needs to be dispensed in the attempt to make progress against rage and stupidity.  I give us a 60-40 chance, maybe 70-30, of survival.

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« Reply #231 on: October 24, 2020, 12:13:54 am »
Biden’s gaffe about ending the oil industry isn’t going to go over well in battleground states.
Really? Well, how about this...

From: https://www.axios.com/pennsylvania-fracking-poll-4e215784-4838-4120-b9f3-29147742f5fb.html
Fifty-two percent oppose fracking in a CBS News poll of registered voters in Pennsylvania, while 48% favor the oil-and-gas extraction method... 

Although the numbers are close, it looks like the majority of people in Pennsylvania are against Fracking. Seems to me that being on the side of the majority of voters is actually a smart political decision.
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Biden’s gonna turn every state into running blackout California!
From: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/08/why-renewables-arent-reason-california-blackouts/
When blackouts rolled across California...some critics blamed the state’s heavy reliance on solar and wind energy....Many experts and leaders, including Steve Berberich, the president of the organization in charge of the state’s power grid, have firmly countered that claim....With appropriate planning, California can continue to expand its use of renewables and decrease its carbon emissions, the root cause of the heat wave that triggered the blackouts in the first place.
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During the recent blackouts, some of these usually reliable sources were unexpectedly unavailable, for reasons that are still not fully clear.
Several gas plants that were supposed to provide power failed to operate.... The state was unable to import power from other states in the region...(because)  other states were facing their own energy shortfalls. Also, because of an ongoing drought, there was less water in the reservoirs that supply many of the hydroelectric plants.


So it looks like the more conventional energy sources (including natural gas, which is a fossil fuel last time I checked) were more to blame than "gee wiz, our solar and wind plants can't keep up".

Reliance on fossil fuels contributes to global warming, which both drives up demand (due to an increase in the demand for air conditioning) and reduces supply (by causing droughts that affect hydro production.) Switching to renewable energy (as well as nuclear) will reduce those problems, allowing the grid to cope better.

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« Reply #232 on: October 24, 2020, 09:32:05 am »
uber-partisans like you struggle with context! Emphasis was either with a reference to 'federal lands'... or... in regard to longer-term transitioning.
He hasn’t added that context in the past.  Especially during the primary debates.  Ol’ lyin Biden got caught.  And his campaign is playing clean up.  Iran and Russia will definitely love his fracking ban though!
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« Reply #233 on: October 24, 2020, 11:10:49 am »
He hasn’t added that context in the past.  Especially during the primary debates.  Ol’ lyin Biden got caught.  And his campaign is playing clean up.  Iran and Russia will definitely love his fracking ban though!


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« Reply #234 on: October 24, 2020, 11:12:42 am »
The director of FBI, Ray, was fired already and in the process of transferring his duty. The hard drives with the scandal of the Biden family were in the possession of the FBI but the should've-done-investigation didn't happen given the importance of this scandal.

Guiliani is the next director of the FBI and he will be the hero again to drain the swamp.

The swamp is so muddy that there are Democrats and Republicans involved in the bribery from the Chinese Communist Party. The insiders from the high ranking Chinese Communist Party leaked some important documents indicating some of the former presidents betrayed the USA.

The rise of Biden's connection to the CCP ( Chinese Communist Party)
https://gnews.org/446404/

Mark my word and verify it in about a month.

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« Reply #235 on: October 24, 2020, 11:21:04 am »
He is being mealy-mouthed though - clearly and sadly, struggling against wanting to embrace and unabashedly declare that yes, fracking like most fossil fuels, has to go and the sooner the better.

It sucks to be on a planet where so much candy coating needs to be dispensed in the attempt to make progress against rage and stupidity.  I give us a 60-40 chance, maybe 70-30, of survival.

yes! To watch the tight-rope antics is disheartening, but often, even then, the candy coating appeasements are purposely taken out-of-context for political gain... even with accompanying explanations and full transparency, talk of aiming for net-zero carbon emissions and/or reducing dependency on fossil-fuels over an extended time-frame, one's political opponents will purposely use related statements OutOfContext for political gain!

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« Reply #236 on: October 24, 2020, 11:25:50 am »
gnews

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #237 on: October 24, 2020, 11:31:04 am »
Unfortunately clear headed isn’t enough to make up for terrible policy.  Policy trumps personality.  All of you need to put on your big boy pants and start to realize that.  Don’t get so triggered over stupid tweets and dumb jokes.
How anyone cheerleading for Trump wants to talk about policy is beyond me. Trump has no policy or plans of any kind--either that or he's utterly incapable of articulating them which is even worse. You don't want to go down the policy route in your grandstanding here.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #238 on: October 24, 2020, 12:35:18 pm »
Trump has no policy or plans of any kind-

He's perpetually 2 weeks away from introducing a 'beautiful' healthcare system though.

#1 rule for snake oil salesmen: slam 'liberals' then make your pitch...  :D

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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #239 on: October 24, 2020, 01:37:23 pm »


Biden's actual words on fracking were quite innocent and rational in that he can legitimately say he was talking about fracking being a part of that which needs to be transitioned away from. It's weak for the Trumpers but it's probably the best they have.

In any case, a bit of careful thinking on the issue should tell us that it's too complicated for most Americans on what they are able to relate to as a political issue separate from AGW issues.

Not to suggest that we Canadians should really care which one of them becomes their president for the next 4. It's a crapshoot on both of them.
It was believed afterward that the man was a lunatic, because there was no sense in what he said. ~M.T.