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« Reply #1905 on: May 23, 2023, 05:54:10 pm »
Bill Clinton was definitely good, I would kill for somebody like that in Canada.  However, Bill Clinton also benefited from Bush Sr agreeing to raise taxes a couple of years earlier, and Republican congress that held the line on spending, and a dot com boom.

Bush Sr. was not a great president, who broke his promise of raising taxes.  He also led the nation into one of the worst recessions of the 20th century.

PS...the dot.com boom did not happen until the late 90s.
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« Reply #1906 on: May 23, 2023, 08:52:01 pm »
Complete nonsense.  You’re using the economy shutdowns of covid to come up with those ridiculous assertions.  Americans gave Trump far better approval of the economy than Biden. 

Yes, Trump didn't have to deal with the fallout from COVID like Biden did. That's the reality.

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Trump was also the first president in like 50 years not to get involved in any new wars. Biden quickly changed that.


It wasn't for lack of trying. Remember when he tried to start a war with Iran?

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That’s why any Republican that runs against Biden will win.  Other than Trump because of all his other baggage.

Just like the Dems were going to get washed in the midterms, right?
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« Reply #1907 on: May 24, 2023, 01:12:36 am »
Bill Clinton was one of the greatest Presidents of the 20th century.  In 1993, he inherited an economy in the midst of a recession, and created millions of jobs during the 90s. He balanced the budgets far better than Reagan, Bush Sr, Bush Jr, and Trump.

Bill Clinton was a decent president but he inherited a post-soviet global order with the USA as the remaining superpower and enjoyed a long run of economic growth and stability as a result, and then bounced just before 9/11.  He was the luckiest POTUS ever.  A President's effect on the economy is greatly exaggerated.
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« Reply #1908 on: May 24, 2023, 10:01:24 am »
Yes, Trump didn't have to deal with the fallout from COVID like Biden did. That's the reality.
To me, there are 3 issues at play when trying to excuse Trump's poor economic record as a 'Covid problem'...

- There were already signs that the US economy was in trouble before covid hit. Under Trump, economic growth and job creation in the first 3 years actually SLOWED compared to the last 3 years of Obama. Manufacturing had already been in a recession, and the trade deficit was increasing. And there was an 'inverted yield curve' (which is not the cause of a recession, but a sign that one is likely to occur soon). Had covid not been a thing, you still might have had a recession in 2020.

- Trump and the MAGAchuds like to claim credit for economic success in the first 3 years of Trump's term, even though trump had inherited an economy that was growing steadily under Obama (at which point the economy actually slowed). If Trump is going to claim credit for things that he had little role in assisting with, then he should get the blame when things go bad even if its something out of control. Sounds fair, doesn't it? You either accept credit and blame for everything, or you accept credit and blame for nothing.

- A pandemic is going to affect economic performance. But, Trump could have made the situation much less problematic. He could have kept  scientists in china, which might have given western countries more information to work with. He could have taken stronger action earlier in the pandemic instead of claiming "it will be gone soon". His mismanagement made the situation much worse (both in terms of economic and humanitarian impact) than it should have been
 
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Re: Trump not starting any wars...
It wasn't for lack of trying. Remember when he tried to start a war with Iran?
Remember when Trump abandoned the Kurds (long-time US allies)? Ah, good times...

Trump's solution to preventing war seems to be "let the foreign strong-men do whatever they want". The US was subservient to the Russians. Trump had a "love affair" with North Korea's leader.
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Re: The Joe Biden Thread
« Reply #1909 on: June 01, 2023, 02:27:24 pm »
Joe Biden falls on his face today at a graduation ceremony! 😂😂😂

https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1664343681321541636?s=46&t=C8Zj6S2wjnbPysohBCizdg

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« Reply #1911 on: June 01, 2023, 02:29:20 pm »
I actually feel sorry for him.  It's elder abuse that he's even president right now, but his handlers don't care.

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« Reply #1912 on: June 01, 2023, 02:30:40 pm »
I actually feel sorry for him.  It's elder abuse that he's even president right now, but his handlers don't care.

He bounced back pretty well there for an 80-year-old. If that happened to Trump they'd need a crane to get him up.
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« Reply #1913 on: June 01, 2023, 03:04:16 pm »
He bounced back pretty well there for an 80-year-old. If that happened to Trump they'd need a crane to get him up.
Wow, absolutely delusional.

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« Reply #1914 on: June 01, 2023, 03:09:12 pm »
I actually feel sorry for him.  It's elder abuse that he's even president right now, but his handlers don't care.
He managed to outsmart the GOP on the debt ceiling negotiations pretty handily. They're crying now about how they were too dumb to know what was going on. 😂

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« Reply #1915 on: June 01, 2023, 03:39:15 pm »
He managed to outsmart the GOP on the debt ceiling negotiations pretty handily. They're crying now about how they were too dumb to know what was going on. 😂
Lol, you think it was him?  You’re even more delusional.

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« Reply #1916 on: June 01, 2023, 03:48:30 pm »
Lol, you think it was him?  You’re even more delusional.
Wah! Biden is demented, except when he is totally outsmarting us! Meanwhile you worship the demented toad who didn't even have the brains to realize he lost an election. 😂

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« Reply #1917 on: June 01, 2023, 05:22:36 pm »
Wah! Biden is demented, except when he is totally outsmarting us! Meanwhile you worship the demented toad who didn't even have the brains to realize he lost an election. 😂
His handlers behind the scenes do all the heavy lifting.  He’s just a figurehead.  It’s gonna be hilarious seeing the commercials during the presidential campaign featuring him falling all over place!

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« Reply #1918 on: June 01, 2023, 05:48:15 pm »
It’s gonna be hilarious seeing the commercials during the presidential campaign featuring him falling all over place!

 

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« Reply #1919 on: June 01, 2023, 06:12:35 pm »
His handlers behind the scenes do all the heavy lifting.  He’s just a figurehead.  It’s gonna be hilarious seeing the commercials during the presidential campaign featuring him falling all over place!
That's why you can't elect demented megalomaniacs. They don't have the capacity to realize when they're out of their depth. They even create their own reality when they lose.