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Offline Tom Brady Shady

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« Reply #7740 on: August 18, 2022, 10:39:02 pm »
no, you misinforming Trumpkin! Per Politico: There was NO ORDER today - the judge did NOT order the unsealing of the Mar-a-Lago affidavit. He said he was inclined to at least partially unseal it, but wanted to see proposed redactions from the FBI.

as for the want of federal DOJ prosecutors to keep the affidavit sealed: In a court filing they wrote - The search warrant affidavit contains “highly sensitive information” that could compromise the “ongoing law enforcement investigation that implicates national security”.
Lol, the ol’national security card!  Sorry, we can’t show you anything, because, err, um, national security!  Complete bullocks.  Release the facking affidavit.  This is a GD democracy not a facking police state, even though people like you are fighting hard to make it that way.  You’re another mouthpiece for the security state.  Muh security!!!

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« Reply #7741 on: August 18, 2022, 10:44:26 pm »
c'mon Shady! Put aside your whataboutism and take your 'Hillary Card' back. Why would Trump have all those (varying degrees of) classified documents at his home in Florida - what intent did he have for them? Now I already posted a Daily Show video that had Trump's GOP apologists and Fox News enablers repeating the same ridiculous "excuses" (lies and talking points) as to why he had classified documents at his personal home... but what about you, hey Shady? What say you?
You hit the nail on the head.  Varying degrees of classified documents.  The devil is in the details as to the level of classified material, and why it’s classified, and whether or not Trump had the authority to de-classify them.  Now that I’ve answered that, why do you think Hillary set up a private server?  Why were 30,000 emails deleted in a way rendering them unrecoverable?  What would you say if Trump had done that?  I think we know the answer.

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« Reply #7742 on: August 18, 2022, 10:45:38 pm »
Uh...no.
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« Reply #7743 on: August 18, 2022, 10:54:26 pm »
Btw, let’s not forget that the FBI literally fabricated evidence in their affidavits in order to get a FISA warrant on Carter Page.  The individual who falsified affidavit evidence to illegally spy on an American citizen, and lied to a judge to obtain said warrant received a slap on the wrist.  Ain’t it amazing what the powerful can get away with when you’re part of the security state?!!!!

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« Reply #7744 on: August 18, 2022, 11:04:20 pm »
FBI lawyer who doctored Carter Page email gets year of probation
https://nypost.com/2021/01/29/fbi-lawyer-who-doctored-carter-page-email-gets-probation/amp/



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« Reply #7745 on: August 18, 2022, 11:07:01 pm »
The DOJ now believes it didn't have probable cause to think Carter Page might be acting as an agent of a foreign power, which was required to surveil him.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1121406

Oops, they didn’t actually have probable cause.  Oh well right?  😂

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #7746 on: August 18, 2022, 11:15:06 pm »
Ah look it thinks it’s people.

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« Reply #7747 on: August 18, 2022, 11:36:18 pm »
Lol, the ol’national security card!  Sorry, we can’t show you anything, because, err, um, national security!  Complete bullocks.  Release the facking affidavit.  This is a GD democracy not a facking police state, even though people like you are fighting hard to make it that way.  You’re another mouthpiece for the security state.  Muh security!!!

this is the same judge that authorized the search warrant in the first place... who subsequently was vilified by Trump & acolytes to the nth degree. Now the same judge is being trumpeted as a 'good guy' cause Trumpkins like you falsely believe he ordered the unsealing of a related affidavit - heelarious!

of course it is in the public interest to have criminal investigations go forward unimpeded; something that would be compromised with a full unredacted unsealing of the related affidavit that is said to provide a roadmap to the investigation, that includes sensitive grand jury related information... and even indicates the next steps in the probe.

you're such a gdamn infant shrieking about democracy & a police state when it's typically the norm for an affidavit to remain sealed while an investigation is ongoing!

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« Reply #7748 on: August 18, 2022, 11:51:49 pm »
c'mon Shady! You have yet to offer comment... rationale... as to why Trump had those documents (of varying degrees of classified sensitivity) at the "Southern White House". Instead you alternately choose to deflect/distract/obfuscate...


c'mon Shady! Put aside your whataboutism and take your 'Hillary Card' back. Why would Trump have all those (varying degrees of) classified documents at his home in Florida - what intent did he have for them? Now I already posted a Daily Show video that had Trump's GOP apologists and Fox News enablers repeating the same ridiculous "excuses" (lies and talking points) as to why he had classified documents at his personal home... but what about you, hey Shady? What say you?

You hit the nail on the head.  Varying degrees of classified documents.  The devil is in the details as to the level of classified material, and why it’s classified, and whether or not Trump had the authority to de-classify them.

if you even remotely follow this shyteshow, you recognize there is no actual paper-trail to support any claims that Trump declassified said documents... that a U.S. President doesn't have the isolated authority to just wave a declassify wand without the involvement of related government departments engaged in a robust formal procedure to declassify documents. Even more hilarious is reading Trumpkins spouting off about a so-called "standing order" that Trump issued - a supposed order that magically declassified classified materials once Trump removed them!

‘Ludicrous.’ ‘Ridiculous.’ ‘A complete fiction.’: Former Trump officials say his claim of ‘standing order’ to declassify is nonsense

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #7749 on: August 19, 2022, 09:55:29 am »
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« Reply #7751 on: August 19, 2022, 03:34:17 pm »
This is insane.  It’s Russia-gate and the Steele dossier all over again.

FBI Unit Leading Mar-a-Lago Probe Earlier Ran Discredited Trump-Russia Investigation
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/08/18/fbi_unit_leading_mar-a-lago_probe_previously_led_russiagate_hoax_848582.html

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« Reply #7753 on: August 19, 2022, 03:42:28 pm »
This is insane.  It’s Russia-gate and the Steele dossier all over again.

Given "Russiagate" resulted in multiple Trump people taking plea deals and one conviction at trial, maybe not the comparison you want to make.

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« Reply #7754 on: August 19, 2022, 03:57:08 pm »
Given "Russiagate" resulted in multiple Trump people taking plea deals and one conviction at trial, maybe not the comparison you want to make.
Nothing related to Russian collusion.  Most of it for “lying” under oath about no underlying crime.  Prosecuting people for differing stories months apart is what police states specialize in.