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Offline Slim Shady

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« Reply #7455 on: July 22, 2022, 11:32:45 am »
This is what happens when you limit your information sources to people who think you're a gullible idiot who can be easily manipulated. Congress was meeting on Jan. 6 to certify the election results. Trump wanted Pence to reject the legitimate electors and install fake ones instead. When he refused, Trump thought a riot would scare him into complying or at least stall the process until he could get someone installed who would.
But the protest was planned days ahead.  And delaying certifying results doesn’t overturn an election.  You people are insane.  Get professional help.

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« Reply #7456 on: July 22, 2022, 11:35:06 am »
How were they trying to overturn election results?  By walking around in the capital building?  Please explain how they could have overturned election results.

Again, you'd have to ask them since it was why they were there.

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« Reply #7457 on: July 22, 2022, 11:40:38 am »
Again, you'd have to ask them since it was why they were there.
So you finally admit that the election couldn’t have been overturned.  See how easy that was?  So this whole insurrection stuff is complete and utter bullsh*t.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  And a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent.  I fully support them being charged for trespassing and assault.  The rest of this theatre is complete insanity.

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« Reply #7458 on: July 22, 2022, 11:40:45 am »
But the protest was planned days ahead.  And delaying certifying results doesn’t overturn an election.  You people are insane.  Get professional help.
Yes, the guy you worship was insane to try it. That's true. Doesn't stop you from worshipping him though for some reason.

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« Reply #7459 on: July 22, 2022, 11:47:20 am »
So you finally admit that the election couldn’t have been overturned.  See how easy that was?  So this whole insurrection stuff is complete and utter bullsh*t.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  And a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent.  I fully support them being charged for trespassing and assault.  The rest of this theatre is complete insanity.

Whether the election could have been overturned by violent means or not is irrelevant to the fact that there was an attempt to do so, you chuckleheaded dingbat.

You're also conflating two separate but related things: the violent insurrection in the capitol and Trump's attempts to undermine and overturn the election results. You really are completely at sea here, it's pathetic.
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« Reply #7460 on: July 22, 2022, 11:58:20 am »
So you finally admit that the election couldn’t have been overturned.  See how easy that was?  So this whole insurrection stuff is complete and utter bullsh*t.  It was a protest that turned into a riot.  And a handful of people, who were unarmed, became violent.  I fully support them being charged for trespassing and assault.  The rest of this theatre is complete insanity.
There would have been a constitutional crisis if Mike Pence didn't suddenly grow a pair. But it's not like they even made a secret of their intentions. It must be difficult, given the openness of their strategy, for you to stick your head in the sand so deeply to try and pretend nothing happened. The self-respect is the first thing to go when you're a Trumper.
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« Reply #7461 on: July 22, 2022, 12:11:15 pm »
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in April, 72-year-old Lonnie Coffman of Falkville, Alabama, was sentenced to four years in prison for bringing loaded guns, ammunition and Molotov cocktail ingredients to Washington on Jan. 6.

The weapons were found in his truck—parked less than half a mile from the Capitol building—which he left to attend a rally at the National Mall. A statement by the Department of Justice said Coffman "also carried a loaded handgun and a loaded revolver as he walked around the area that day."In March 2022, 49-year-old Texan Guy Reffitt, was convicted (among other charges) for being unlawfully present on Capitol grounds while possessing a firearm and transporting firearms during civil disorder.

A Department of Justice indictment from January 2021 also states that Christopher Alberts, Maryland, was found carrying a Taurus G2C semi-automatic handgun on Capitol grounds on January 6.

Off-duty Drug Enforcement Administration agent Mark Sami Ibrahim, 32, was also indicted by a grand jury for bringing a firearm within the United States Capitol and its grounds.

In an article for Newsweek, Nick Suplina and Justin Wagner of Everytown for Gun Safety said they had identified "12 individuals allegedly tied to the events of Jan. 6 who were arrested in Washington, D.C., and charged with firearms offenses."

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In the wake of the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a popular narrative has emerged: that because rioters did not fire guns that day, they were not really "armed."

But a review of the federal charges against the alleged rioters shows that they did come armed, and with a variety of weapons: stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats and flagpoles wielded as clubs. An additional suspect also allegedly planted pipe bombs by the headquarters of the Democratic and Republican parties the night before the riot and remains at large.
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Federal court records, included in NPR's database of more than 300 criminal cases, allege that at least three dozen people who took part in the riot used or possessed some kind of weapon that day.

This number is likely a low estimate of the total number of weapons that rioters brought with them. As the Justice Department has noted in court filings, "no crowd member submitted to security screenings or weapons checks by Capitol Police or other authorized security officials." Most of the people who stormed the Capitol were not arrested during the riot itself. Many are still at large.

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« Reply #7462 on: July 22, 2022, 12:50:33 pm »
Whether the election could have been overturned by violent means or not is irrelevant to the fact that there was an attempt to do so, you chuckleheaded dingbat.

You're also conflating two separate but related things: the violent insurrection in the capitol and Trump's attempts to undermine and overturn the election results. You really are completely at sea here, it's pathetic.
There was an attempt to do something not possible?  With a group of unarmed protesters?  Huh?  Get professional help.

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« Reply #7463 on: July 22, 2022, 12:53:00 pm »



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Yes, a handful of people.  Check the number of people charged with assault.  You don’t even ha e to take my word for it.
Yes, weapons that were not on scene and not part of the riot, aka unarmed.  Try harder.
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« Reply #7464 on: July 22, 2022, 12:55:03 pm »
There would have been a constitutional crisis if Mike Pence didn't suddenly grow a pair. But it's not like they even made a secret of their intentions. It must be difficult, given the openness of their strategy, for you to stick your head in the sand so deeply to try and pretend nothing happened. The self-respect is the first thing to go when you're a Trumper.
Would there have been a constitutional crisis when Democrats refused to certify election results in 2016?  If Biden hadn’t have grown a pair?  Just wondering.
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« Reply #7465 on: July 22, 2022, 01:03:46 pm »
There is even testimony under oath that Trump knew they were armed and shut down the weapons screening because attendance at his rally would look pathetic if they didn't allow the people with guns in. Testimony from Republican Trumpers. People who were like you but not as craven.

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« Reply #7466 on: July 22, 2022, 01:04:06 pm »
There was an attempt to do something not possible?  With a group of unarmed protesters?  Huh?  Get professional help.

You are genuinely the stupidest human being I have ever encountered. Basic logic is completely confounding to you, it's incredible. The rioters believed they could overturn the election, that's really all that matters.

Yes, a handful of people.  Check the number of people charged with assault.  You don’t even ha e to take my word for it.

You know there's video of the day showing hundreds of people participating in the violence and that not everyone who was violent was caught and charged, right?


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Yes, weapons that were not on scene and not part of the riot, aka unarmed.  Try harder.

I literally posted names of people charged with carrying guns on the Capitol grounds, you drooling choad.
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« Reply #7467 on: July 22, 2022, 01:13:05 pm »
Would there have been a constitutional crisis when Democrats refused to certify election results in 2016?  If Biden hadn’t have grown a pair?  Just wondering.
Of course. But that didn't happen. Will you silently accept her authority if Kamala decides not to certify Repulican wins in the next election and certifies her own slate of electors instead?
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« Reply #7468 on: July 22, 2022, 01:19:02 pm »
There is even testimony under oath that Trump knew they were armed and shut down the weapons screening because attendance at his rally would look pathetic if they didn't allow the people with guns in. Testimony from Republican Trumpers. People who were like you but not as craven.
Complete and utter nonsense.
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« Reply #7469 on: July 22, 2022, 01:20:50 pm »
Complete and utter nonsense.

This is what you always say when you've been owned into submission.