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Offline SirJohn

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« Reply #825 on: September 28, 2017, 12:04:09 pm »
Except some white players are doing the same thing. I guess you don't have to be black to understand the issue.

I suppose to you football players would seem like towering intellectuals who should guide us in our public morality and ethics...
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« Reply #826 on: September 28, 2017, 12:05:03 pm »
There aren't two issues. There's one issue that black football players were bringing attention to.

Shooting black criminals who resist arrest, you mean?
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« Reply #827 on: September 28, 2017, 12:06:46 pm »
It's funny that all those NFL owners were being called racist by everybody with a platform.  It's was the "rich white guy club", it was the "white owners with their black monkeys", now they lock arms with a few of them and they're praised for "standing against Trump's racism".  Do you people not even see this?   Really?  Look, the owners and the NFL are trying to find a way out as quickly as possible. 

You can say that all sports are suffering, but this is the NFL and 10-11% decline represents 100's of $millions, maybe $billions of dollars.  If NHL players did this, I'd stop watching immediately. 

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« Reply #828 on: September 28, 2017, 12:08:12 pm »
Shooting black criminals who resist arrest, you mean?
Criminals before trial? 5 year old child criminals? Criminals who obey a cop's orders and get shot sitting in their car anyway?

You're either incredibly ignorant of what's been happening or just a racist who thinks being black is criminal.
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Offline Hal 9000

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« Reply #829 on: September 28, 2017, 12:10:18 pm »
There are clearly 2 issues here.  How do I know?  Because society and NFL fans say so.  If you think otherwise, then you're simply disregarding the thoughts of millions of people - as I said, it's not a good starting point.

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« Reply #830 on: September 28, 2017, 12:21:01 pm »
Criminals before trial? 5 year old child criminals? Criminals who obey a cop's orders and get shot sitting in their car anyway?

I don't recall a five year old deliberately shot by police. You'll have to cite the case. The guy in he car **** up. He said he had a gun, then reached for something. The cop shouted at him to not move. Apparently he moved. It's too bad but when you have cops who are in a heightened state of fear they're liable to be trigger happy, as the Justine Damond case illustrates.

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« Reply #831 on: September 28, 2017, 04:31:21 pm »
The owners are between a rock and a hard place. Many of their highly skilled players are Black, and the mass media is wholly on whatever side Trump is not on. At the same time, when boos are raining down from the stands in your own stadium you'd be wise to stop bringing politics into your business.

Or on the other hand they just think Trump is FoS as usual. Much easier to make stuff up than listen to what they are actually saying.
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« Reply #832 on: September 28, 2017, 05:05:34 pm »
Or on the other hand they just think Trump is FoS as usual. Much easier to make stuff up than listen to what they are actually saying.

Please!  You're embarrassing yourself.  These owners don't support this movement, but they can't be seen strong arming black players - for obvious reasons.  They're trying to find a way, as Jerry Jones has of walking the fence until this blows over.  Look at what will happen tonight and this weekend, it will be interesting to see how the owners stop the players from kneeling (during the anthem) and find another outlet.  Trump has brought this to a head, will be the winner, and you guy's will convince each other that he somehow lost.

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« Reply #833 on: September 28, 2017, 05:19:19 pm »
Please!  You're embarrassing yourself.  These owners don't support this movement, but they can't be seen strong arming black players - for obvious reasons.  They're trying to find a way, as Jerry Jones has of walking the fence until this blows over.  Look at what will happen tonight and this weekend, it will be interesting to see how the owners stop the players from kneeling (during the anthem) and find another outlet.  Trump has brought this to a head, will be the winner, and you guy's will convince each other that he somehow lost.

There is a bit of a difference between owners strong arming black and white players and going on the field to join arms with them. Trump has simply once again made an **** of himself by displaying his racism while ignoring Americans in trouble on Puerto Rico.   

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« Reply #834 on: September 28, 2017, 05:43:07 pm »
There is a bit of a difference between owners strong arming black and white players and going on the field to join arms with them. Trump has simply once again made an **** of himself by displaying his racism while ignoring Americans in trouble on Puerto Rico.

Exactly!  I mean, don't the owners look supportive!  It's almost as if they're different from the owners of last year who were all called racist because none were black or when they were racist for supporting Trump.  Man, what a well timed photo-op can do!


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« Reply #835 on: September 28, 2017, 06:40:57 pm »
I don't recall a five year old deliberately shot by police. You'll have to cite the case. The guy in he car **** up. He said he had a gun, then reached for something. The cop shouted at him to not move. Apparently he moved. It's too bad but when you have cops who are in a heightened state of fear they're liable to be trigger happy, as the Justine Damond case illustrates.
Still not a "criminal"

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« Reply #836 on: September 28, 2017, 06:49:08 pm »
Please!  You're embarrassing yourself.  These owners don't support this movement, but they can't be seen strong arming black players - for obvious reasons.  They're trying to find a way, as Jerry Jones has of walking the fence until this blows over.  Look at what will happen tonight and this weekend, it will be interesting to see how the owners stop the players from kneeling (during the anthem) and find another outlet.  Trump has brought this to a head, will be the winner, and you guy's will convince each other that he somehow lost.

Please, stop making crap up and presuming to speak for the owners. Trump is just a dick head trying to deflect from all his failed attempts to get legislation passed.
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« Reply #837 on: September 28, 2017, 07:01:12 pm »
Just because some of the owners may have supported Trump for his business policies doesn’t make them racist bigots like him.
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« Reply #838 on: September 28, 2017, 07:08:43 pm »
Please, stop making crap up and presuming to speak for the owners. Trump is just a dick head trying to deflect from all his failed attempts to get legislation passed.

Call me skeptical, but I gotta think that NFL owners care more about the $millions of dollars they've lost than the political beliefs of a guy who grew up in a ghetto, was dragged through a college degree and now makes $millions of dollars because he can run or catch a football.  Maybe they care out keeping their No.1 QB, RB or WR happy, but the rest are pretty much replaceable.   

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« Reply #839 on: September 28, 2017, 07:12:00 pm »
Just because some of the owners may have supported Trump for his business policies doesn’t make them racist bigots like him.

I don't see any racism from any side.  You know, there are many blacks in the military.