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Offline Omni

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6540 on: November 11, 2020, 11:54:55 am »
Quote from: Montgomery on November 11, 2020, 10:59:15 am
If you have a serious question you would like me to answer, then please, no more of your childish spamming. However, to do my part to make this forum better, I'll overlook your childish spam this time and answer your question.

Yes, I'm influenced by all news media I read, whether it's your Fox News you've quoted or it's Breitbart, antiwar.com, RT.com, or even the NYT. There're all informative for those who are interested in world affairs more than just silly childish spamming. Now let's see if we can do a little better shall we?

My serious question in case you missed it, is why do you bother to get your news from sources well known to be illegitimate? It does seem to negatively affect your statements/opinions.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6541 on: November 11, 2020, 12:26:44 pm »
Quote from: Omni on November 11, 2020, 11:54:55 am
My serious question in case you missed it, is why do you bother to get your news from sources well known to be illegitimate? It does seem to negatively affect your statements/opinions.

Thank you for you grownup reply that doesn't contain more spamming. The simple answer that should be very easily understood by everybody is that all new sources provide some indication on how the 'other' side or the 'fringe' is thinking. And especially now that Breitbart likely has hundreds of thousands or even millions of followers who are sympathizing with the 'fringe' that has 70 million supporters.

Why is this so hard for you to accept. It seems to me that it can't be anything more than just contrariness.

Same goes for RT.com, and I could name a dozen more that don't speak the language you prefer to hear. Why not try to come to the understanding that every word they print is golden for the sake of being able to understand Russia's P's O V? Adults surely understand that they don't have to agree with any news outlet, but adults obviously understand that they're tying their hands and leaving themselves in the dark if they don't explore all opinions.

Please at least try to move along from your contrary attitude. It's not serving you well at all!
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6542 on: November 11, 2020, 12:34:38 pm »
Quote from: Montgomery on November 11, 2020, 12:26:44 pm
Thank you for you grownup reply that doesn't contain more spamming. The simple answer that should be very easily understood by everybody is that all new sources provide some indication on how the 'other' side or the 'fringe' is thinking. And especially now that Breitbart likely has hundreds of thousands or even millions of followers who are sympathizing with the 'fringe' that has 70 million supporters.

Why is this so hard for you to accept. It seems to me that it can't be anything more than just contrariness.

Same goes for RT.com, and I could name a dozen more that don't speak the language you prefer to hear. Why not try to come to the understanding that every word they print is golden for the sake of being able to understand Russia's P's O V? Adults surely understand that they don't have to agree with any news outlet, but adults obviously understand that they're tying their hands and leaving themselves in the dark if they don't explore all opinions.

Please at least try to move along from your contrary attitude. It's not serving you well at all!

What serves me well with this issue is not relying on news (such as Faux. Breitbart)) that are demonstrably phony and driven by far right extremist views.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6543 on: November 11, 2020, 12:44:22 pm »
Quote from: Omni on November 11, 2020, 12:34:38 pm
What serves me well with this issue is not relying on news (such as Faux. Breitbart)) that are demonstrably phony and driven by far right extremist views.

I can't help people who refuse to help themselves. Just don't try throwing your spam at me and we'll do fine here.
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« Reply #6544 on: November 11, 2020, 08:24:13 pm »
Quote from: Montgomery on November 11, 2020, 11:14:45 am
Trump becomes a very real threat to US national security.

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/former-cia-director-trump-could-reveal-state-secrets-after-leaving-office-95689285801

But upon a closer look, would this be a bad thing for the rest of the world? Is there any doubt that the US has become the evil empire that threatens our world with more and more wars of aggression? Is there any indication that Biden could be any different.

Trump's betrayall of secrets to China or Russia for instances, regardless of his motives, could be a great aid for defusing US future intentions of more aggression.

Trump had his negatives, and they were probably more than any positives, but on US foreign policy it's becoming clearer that Trump's fall from glory will energize him to make further attempts to find common ground between his country and Russia/Putin.
To gauge the potential for good Trump could have, just listen to US hawks when they start screaming bloody murder!

The only positive that could come from Trump selling US national security secrets to Russia or China is that when he's caught they can execute him for treason.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6545 on: November 12, 2020, 11:39:09 am »
Quote from: kimmy on November 11, 2020, 08:24:13 pm
The only positive that could come from Trump selling US national security secrets to Russia or China is that when he's caught they can execute him for treason.

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It's going to be more secretive than that Kimmy. And besides, didn't everybody already know that Biden will pardon Trump? They always forgive and forget their presidents' criminality.

Anyway, there's probably nothing China and Russia don't know that they want to know. And vice versa maybe?
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6546 on: November 12, 2020, 12:45:16 pm »
Quote from: Montgomery on November 12, 2020, 11:39:09 am
It's going to be more secretive than that Kimmy. And besides, didn't everybody already know that Biden will pardon Trump? They always forgive and forget their presidents' criminality.

Anyway, there's probably nothing China and Russia don't know that they want to know. And vice versa maybe?

Apparently you didn't know that Biden has already said he won't pardon Trump saying instead he will let the justice system run it's course.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6547 on: November 12, 2020, 01:29:03 pm »
Quote from: Omni on November 12, 2020, 12:45:16 pm
Apparently you didn't know that Biden has already said he won't pardon Trump saying instead he will let the justice system run it's course.

I did know that Omni, and that told me immediately that he will. Or at least he will if it comes to needing that. Biden also babbled on about bringing that country together again.

I know pretty well everything that's going on politically in that country Omni, or at the very least, everything you'll ever know. You should keep that in mind if you intend to continue barking at me.

And fwiw, if you were thinking logically rather than pouting, the justice system needs to run it's course on any particular matter before the pardon process kicks in.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6548 on: November 12, 2020, 01:41:07 pm »
Quote from: Montgomery on November 12, 2020, 01:29:03 pm
... the justice system needs to run it's course on any particular matter before the pardon process kicks in.

apparently, 'it is said' by anonymous inside sources (ahem), Trump has designs on issuing pardons preemptively for things people could be charged with in the future. The legality of this is unclear... as is whether or not Trump can self-pardon himself.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6549 on: November 12, 2020, 02:04:08 pm »
Quote from: waldo on November 12, 2020, 01:41:07 pm
apparently, 'it is said' by anonymous inside sources (ahem), Trump has designs on issuing pardons preemptively for things people could be charged with in the future. The legality of this is unclear... as is whether or not Trump can self-pardon himself.

It's nothing better than a crapshoot waldo. That which is irrational can be made to be rational. And consider that if they can do that down there, there could be extreme rightists in Alberta that will try to introduce the same crap in Canada.

They're lost in a cesspool of corruption and now they're stuck with no solutions for at least another 4 years. Even if the D's win the senate, there's little chance of any success under Biden.

Both sides are still calling any sort of meaningful change as socialism or communism. And isn't it very obvious that Biden, their media, and their congress critters are deathly afraid of the term.

By now it should be scoffed at and laughed at! Fkng seriously!
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« Reply #6550 on: November 13, 2020, 11:52:44 am »
A comment at the NP, not mine but worth reading.

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What will happen is: as soon as the dust settles, Trump will say "I am done" and will resign. Pence will be sworn in as President for the remainder of Trump's term (December-January 21, 2021). During that time, Pence will pull a Gerald Ford and pardon Trump for any and all wrongdoing during his administration. People say, he can't be pardoned if he hasn't been charged. But, Nixon hadn't been formally charged with any crime when Ford pardoned him.

It could be possible but it requires Trump to accept defeat and that probably won't be possible. Or could he see escaping prosecution as winning?
Would suicide be a way of winning for Trump?
How can a psychopath get out of this situation he's in?
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6551 on: November 15, 2020, 01:20:44 pm »
as below (left), at his sole public appearance since election day, Trump showcased his new silver-fox 'do' ... as compared to his usual pissYellow colouring! Word on the street says Trump's trusted colorist was deported.

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« Reply #6552 on: November 15, 2020, 01:34:29 pm »
Weird.  Looks so much better.

He represents the end of capitalism.  A hyperreal figure, a cartoon that became real.  They must never allow this to happen again.  Euthanize all who voted for him and OF COURSE I MEAN FIGURATIVELY.   I'm not that cruel.

Right ?

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6553 on: November 15, 2020, 01:52:30 pm »
Quote from: waldo on November 15, 2020, 01:20:44 pm
as below (left), at his sole public appearance since election day, Trump showcased his new silver-fox 'do' ... as compared to his usual pissYellow colouring! Word on the street says Trump's trusted colorist was deported.



You really think he changed the colour? Looks to me that it's a change of lighting, due to the grey shade on the flag's white between the blood stripes.
But if you think so, what could be the message in his head? Beleaguered? Looking for pity?
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« Reply #6554 on: November 15, 2020, 02:01:19 pm »
Quote from: MH on November 15, 2020, 01:34:29 pm
Weird.  Looks so much better.

He represents the end of capitalism.  A hyperreal figure, a cartoon that became real.  They must never allow this to happen again.  Euthanize all who voted for him and OF COURSE I MEAN FIGURATIVELY.   I'm not that cruel.

Right ?

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He represented hope for the millions of ordinary working people who had had enough of the ripoff that is the American way. We shouldn't be getting that wrong. And the other fact about him is that he lied with his promises to help the ordinary people.

He was still able to make them believe that he was trying to do just that but was prevented by the other side that was trying to turn their country into a socialist paradise.

I think that Canadians need to be able to rise above their hate for the psychopath and try to understand why he still has over 70 million fooled. That's not an insignificant number!
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