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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6270 on: October 15, 2020, 01:52:48 pm »
danceOff! 1992 EpsteinTrump versus 2020 ImmuneTrump

How can any October surprise be used to hurt Biden's chances when compared to the fact that Trump was friends with a pedophile and likely was also guilty of pedophilia along with his friend?
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« Reply #6271 on: October 16, 2020, 12:09:55 am »
Trump suggests Biden may be suffering from dementia, while he himself can't seem to remember his last Covid test. He was a deer in the headlights a time or two today when he stepped outside of FAX bullshit news for an interview. Bet he doesn't try that again.

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« Reply #6272 on: October 16, 2020, 12:16:20 pm »
Trump suggests Biden may be suffering from dementia, while he himself can't seem to remember his last Covid test. He was a deer in the headlights a time or two today when he stepped outside of FAX bullshit news for an interview. Bet he doesn't try that again.

I think Trump demonstrated his limited ability to debate in the first one. I'm surprised he wants to try again. Possibly against the advice of his handlers and motivated more by his vanity?
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« Reply #6273 on: October 16, 2020, 12:40:14 pm »
I think Trump demonstrated his limited ability to debate in the first one. I'm surprised he wants to try again. Possibly against the advice of his handlers and motivated more by his vanity?

He is losing badly....   what else could he do, other than to try and score some sort of knockout blow in debates?  Thatís why he would want to debate.  Itís his only chance.

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« Reply #6274 on: October 16, 2020, 02:53:08 pm »
He is losing badly....   what else could he do, other than to try and score some sort of knockout blow in debates?  Thatís why he would want to debate.  Itís his only chance.

Their entire election is a wild card. Just imagine what's being done in California with the GOP's illegal ballot boxes! I wonder if any of those boneheads understand what this is doing to the rule of law?

Will the Dems now build a bunch of their own Dem controlled ballot boxes and then why not stuff them full of thousands of ballots for their party?

I see a lot of this as a warning to Canada's government to start distancing ourselves from the US.
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« Reply #6275 on: October 16, 2020, 04:37:09 pm »
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« Reply #6276 on: October 16, 2020, 04:43:14 pm »


I expect the actual photo will appear sometime toward the end of the first week of November.

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« Reply #6277 on: October 18, 2020, 11:34:06 am »
at the recent Trumpy town hall, moderator Savannah Guthrie pressed him over his tweeting of conspiracy 'theories'... citing in particular his recent crazy tweet concerning former U.S. President Barack Obama, VP Joe Biden, and Navy SEALs all conspiring to fake the death of Bin Laden. Trump responds: "I know nothing about it. That was a retweet. That was an opinion from somebody. Iíll put it out there ó people can decide".

Quote from: town hall moderator Savannah Guthrie
I donít get that. Youíre the president. Youíre not like someoneís crazy uncle who can just retweet whatever


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTawZ6P8mY

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« Reply #6278 on: October 18, 2020, 12:31:26 pm »
at the recent Trumpy town hall, moderator Savannah Guthrie pressed him over his tweeting of conspiracy 'theories'... citing in particular his recent crazy tweet concerning former U.S. President Barack Obama, VP Joe Biden, and Navy SEALs all conspiring to fake the death of Bin Laden. Trump responds: "I know nothing about it. That was a retweet. That was an opinion from somebody. Iíll put it out there ó people can decide".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcTawZ6P8mY

Waldo, what's your opinion on Trump remaining as president, as it will apply to Canada?  We know all his negatives and how he's destroying that country but is he necessarily bad for Canada? I tend to try to separate all the election rhetoric from the way he will actually play his part as president, bearing in mind that he will most likely be reduced to a loud mouth figurehead on the foreign policy scene.

Biden, the alternative strikes me as pretty weak kneed on determination and thus could pose a real danger on US foreign policy. Especiallly on Russia after all the hate rhetoric that's being spewed by the Dems and their media.

I see great danger ahead as the US has now come to a crossroads as it pertains to world power. The next 4 years will mean so much for China's attempt to overtake the US and the US isn't going to forfeit it's position as the world's economic leader easily.

There's little doubt that the antiwar faction in the US is siding with Trump, if that's any indication. I check out antiwar.com every day to see the current handling of US foreign policy threats, because it's useful information.

As to the US military threat to the world, I think we're still relatively safe because of the M.A.D. factor that is still respected by the US. There will be small skirmishes as usual but keeping those to a minimum may be more possible under a Trump regime?

As to my own opinion, I'm pretty close to neutral because of the damage Trump can do to US domestic policy. That has the ability to keep them involved trying to hold their country together while China is left less impeded by US foreign policy.

China's and Russia's rise is going to make for a very risky 4 or more years and so will the choice of a president be a major factor?

I should also just add that I believe Iran, Venezuela, Syria, and others are safe now from allout US invasion and war, due to Russia's and China's world interests the US must now respect.
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« Reply #6279 on: October 19, 2020, 12:42:34 am »
I can't... won't give consideration to Trump actually winning another term; current electoral college projections suggest Trump just can't reach the magic number!

of course the key will be if the Democratic Party can gain control of the Senate (retaining the House seems a lock). Biden plays up his ability to work with Republicans but I can't see that country divide coming together until the Senate 'flips'. At that point Democrats can begin to undo much of the nonsense Trump "accomplished" - both domestic and international, particularly taking on global authoritarianism, re-joining the Paris Accord, joining CPTPP, smoothing relations with allies/NATO, etc.. Biden has already hinted at such moves but is being somewhat reserved... for now. As always, there's a continued/increased theme for more Canadian diversification away from such a heavy reliance on trade with the U.S. - but I see a Biden admin working to strengthen trade/military ties with Canada even further... which will be a part of the broader thrusts against China that should be seen through the influence of the U.S. back in the (CP)TPP fold. I can see one of the first actions Biden might take is to re-join the nuclear treaty with Europe/Iran. Speculation abounds and until we begin to see just where Biden goes, it's almost an exercise in 'wishful' thinking.

hey now! That antiwar.com site brought back some real memories... it's been many years since I've followed it; but I always relied upon it to provide status & death/injury counts for military and civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan.

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« Reply #6280 on: October 19, 2020, 09:09:49 am »
I can't... won't give consideration to Trump actually winning another term; current electoral college projections suggest Trump just can't reach the magic number!

of course the key will be if the Democratic Party can gain control of the Senate (retaining the House seems a lock).

Based on polling, sure it looks like Biden has this locked up.

But what of voter suppression?

Biden should win Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That'll lock him up the the vote. He can lose one of those (maybe) and still get 270.

Then he's in play for Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa and Ohio. He steals any of those states from Trump then Trump needs to sweep the rest of the battleground states.

So the numbers are good. But you can't convince MAGAHeads that the polls aren't wrong. And what if any votes counted after Election Day are contested in the, soon-to-be, 6-3 SCOTUS?

Turnout is key, and with Voter Suppression tactics, who knows if all the votes even get counted on election day. I'm hopeful too, but nothing is certain.

As for the Senate. It's tough.  The Dems should steal Arizona, Colorado and Main from the GOP. But will the GOP steal Alabama back?

That leaves tight races in Montana, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia for the Dems to try and win. Also, Lindsey Graham in South Carolina is in big trouble. Those are all "Red States" that the Dems have to break through. It's tough.
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« Reply #6281 on: October 19, 2020, 10:09:46 am »
Based on polling, sure it looks like Biden has this locked up.

But what of voter suppression?

Biden should win Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That'll lock him up the the vote. He can lose one of those (maybe) and still get 270.

Then he's in play for Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, Iowa and Ohio. He steals any of those states from Trump then Trump needs to sweep the rest of the battleground states.

So the numbers are good. But you can't convince MAGAHeads that the polls aren't wrong. And what if any votes counted after Election Day are contested in the, soon-to-be, 6-3 SCOTUS?

Turnout is key, and with Voter Suppression tactics, who knows if all the votes even get counted on election day. I'm hopeful too, but nothing is certain.

As for the Senate. It's tough.  The Dems should steal Arizona, Colorado and Main from the GOP. But will the GOP steal Alabama back?

That leaves tight races in Montana, Iowa, North Carolina, Georgia for the Dems to try and win. Also, Lindsey Graham in South Carolina is in big trouble. Those are all "Red States" that the Dems have to break through. It's tough.

I agree with all of this.  But it does feel different from last time.  In 2016 at this point the Democrats were scheduling last-minute events in Michigan and Minnesota because they realized they had a problem. This time the Republicans have pulled their advertising buys out of battleground states to focus on trying to hang on to Florida and Georgia and Ohio.  Last time the October surprise was an FBI investigation, this time it's a dud.

Regarding the Senate... the latest data from 538 is showing Democrats with a strong chance to gain control of the Senate. Arizona, Maine, Colorado, North Carolina, and possibly Iowa may flip to the Democrats, while only Alabama will flip to the Republicans. So it appears most likely that the Democrats will have 50 or 51 senate seats, and with the Vice President having a tie-breaking vote, that would be enough.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6282 on: October 19, 2020, 12:08:24 pm »
I can't... won't give consideration to Trump actually winning another term; current electoral college projections suggest Trump just can't reach the magic number!

of course the key will be if the Democratic Party can gain control of the Senate (retaining the House seems a lock). Biden plays up his ability to work with Republicans but I can't see that country divide coming together until the Senate 'flips'. At that point Democrats can begin to undo much of the nonsense Trump "accomplished" - both domestic and international, particularly taking on global authoritarianism, re-joining the Paris Accord, joining CPTPP, smoothing relations with allies/NATO, etc.. Biden has already hinted at such moves but is being somewhat reserved... for now. As always, there's a continued/increased theme for more Canadian diversification away from such a heavy reliance on trade with the U.S. - but I see a Biden admin working to strengthen trade/military ties with Canada even further... which will be a part of the broader thrusts against China that should be seen through the influence of the U.S. back in the (CP)TPP fold. I can see one of the first actions Biden might take is to re-join the nuclear treaty with Europe/Iran. Speculation abounds and until we begin to see just where Biden goes, it's almost an exercise in 'wishful' thinking.

hey now! That antiwar.com site brought back some real memories... it's been many years since I've followed it; but I always relied upon it to provide status & death/injury counts for military and civilians in Iraq/Afghanistan.

I just can't see how China would prefer Biden over Trump, if all the election  politics are discounted.

The nuclear treaty with Iran would definitely be a step forward for world peace but I sense it's been made so unpopular by US propagandists that Biden can't mention it. I also have to question whether he could possibly do it, against the prowar rhetoric in the US.

Yes, antiwar.com is telling in that they have always been more right leaning than antiwar and that hasn't changed with Trump. I find no antiwar value in that site now but still find it useful as a barometer of US foreign policy. Especially as that relates to Russia and China to a lesser extent.

On US domestic policy, I see no real change coming about with the election of Biden. Their lack of socially responsible capitalism is far deeper than just Trump. The US is hiding the truths  about the poverty of the ordinary people and the people are brainwashed into accepting being ripped off.

If that can change within the US then maybe there will be a chance of improved US foreign policy and less US led wars. About 40 US wars of aggression since WW2 speaks pretty loudly against the threat of Russia is coming, Russia is coming.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6283 on: October 19, 2020, 03:01:32 pm »
Trump calls the media criminals

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1318267225745346562

"Good luck everybody, have a good time !"

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« Reply #6284 on: October 19, 2020, 03:06:58 pm »
Trump calls the media criminals

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1318267225745346562

"Good luck everybody, have a good time !"

 ;D

I think we mostly all know who is the criminal, which probably has something to do with trump planning to leave the country if he loses. Perhaps his legal staff advised him he cannot pardon himself.