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Offline segnosaur

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« Reply #660 on: August 29, 2017, 12:02:35 pm »
I read somewhere that FEMA doesn't do the actual relief.
Some of the things FEMA does:

- Helps train responders prior to any disasters
- Helps coordinate responses once the disasters hit
- Provides funding for areas to help rebuild

All of which require money (which Trump is cutting back on).

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And they make extra budget requests for disasters.
Some of the functionality that FEMA is involved with (such as training) is an on-going thing. You need to do it BEFORE any disaster hits.

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And it has nothing to do with today as you have acknowledged.
True. But I don't think its too out of line to remind people "You know that great way FEMA handled this disaster? Well, if Trump has his way it won't happen again".


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« Reply #661 on: August 30, 2017, 05:02:50 pm »
I notice Trump stuck to his teleprompter today. I guess the grown ups with him reminded him he is not on a campaign tour, and they possibly he should mention at least a few words about the victims who have lost so much to this wicked storm. "USA and POTUS" hats along with Melania's super high heels gives further confirmation of his character.

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« Reply #662 on: August 30, 2017, 05:23:29 pm »
I wonder if he spoke to ANYBODY in congress about his tax plan yet...

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« Reply #663 on: August 30, 2017, 07:13:48 pm »
I wonder if he spoke to ANYBODY in congress about his tax plan yet...

I think he's simply waiting for congress to give it to him. He doesn't seem to have any actual plans, just likes to make comments to appease his base, and then hopes like hell someone will come up with an idea. So far not much to show.

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« Reply #664 on: August 31, 2017, 09:44:10 am »
I think he's simply waiting for congress to give it to him. He doesn't seem to have any actual plans, just likes to make comments to appease his base, and then hopes like hell someone will come up with an idea. So far not much to show.
I remember reading how Trump's budget plans are put together....His advisors go through his previous speeches, tweets and interviews for any comments the president may have made. They then put together actual numbers based on his (more or less) random comments. I suspect his tax plans will be similar.


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« Reply #665 on: August 31, 2017, 10:27:53 am »
I remember reading how Trump's budget plans are put together....His advisors go through his previous speeches, tweets and interviews for any comments the president may have made. They then put together actual numbers based on his (more or less) random comments. I suspect his tax plans will be similar.

They must be working day and night to get through all those tweets.

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« Reply #666 on: September 02, 2017, 10:34:33 am »
Trump orders 3 Russian posts closed in the US and the one in San Francisco has smoke coming out of the chimney for the first time, and on the hottest day of the year so far. What's being burned I wonder.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russia-consulate-20170901-story.html

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« Reply #667 on: September 02, 2017, 11:00:30 am »
Trump orders 3 Russian posts closed in the US and the one in San Francisco has smoke coming out of the chimney for the first time, and on the hottest day of the year so far. What's being burned I wonder.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russia-consulate-20170901-story.html

The FBI has been pushing for the San Francisco consulate to be closed for decades. It's basically a center for espionage against US high technology and defense contractors.

It's worth noting that according to Bloomberg news the Trump administration made a back channel offer to Russia to give them back those seized properties in exchange for a few restrictions on their activities. The Russians responded by tossing out hundreds of US diplomats.
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« Reply #668 on: September 02, 2017, 09:27:44 pm »
Trump caught in yet another lie over his claim that Obama tapped his phones at Trump Tower. How far down the rabbit hole does his credibility have to descend before the wing nut right wingers who voted for him sit up and take notice?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/02/politics/justice-department-trump-tower-wiretap/index.html

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« Reply #669 on: September 04, 2017, 08:25:46 am »
Trump wants to end DACA but it's not a done deal.  It would be good to see this fail, as healthcare has. 

It does feel, though, that the unhinged element of Trump has been somewhat dampered by Kelly's running of the office.  We haven't had attacks on Morning Joe or random bullshit.  Then again, that may mean we're due.

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« Reply #670 on: September 04, 2017, 08:44:52 am »
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-daca/trump-to-scrap-protection-for-dreamers-give-congress-six-months-to-fix-idUSKCN1BF02F

More details - he's given it to congress to 'fix', but with most top Republicans against scrapping DACA, and Trump's general hands-off policy/animosity towards congressional Republicans it may be watered down or come to nothing.

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« Reply #671 on: September 04, 2017, 11:56:51 am »
Trump wants to end DACA but it's not a done deal.  It would be good to see this fail, as healthcare has. 

It does feel, though, that the unhinged element of Trump has been somewhat dampered by Kelly's running of the office.  We haven't had attacks on Morning Joe or random bullshit.  Then again, that may mean we're due.

I would put my money on "we're due". Trump seems to be able to control his anger so long when he's criticized or snubbed.

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« Reply #672 on: September 04, 2017, 02:03:25 pm »
Speaking of money, here's yet another "brilliant " idea from Trump, he tweets this am that he is threatening to cut off all trade with anyone who does business with NK. Well there goes not only China, the US' largest trading partner, but also South Korea, India, Russia, and a number of others. Australia would also be hard hit. Trump brags about being an astute businessman and yet he seems bent on creating a global recession.
C'mon Mueller, get that obstruction case going so rhe US etal can be rid of this jerk.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/north-korea-bomb-trumps-trade-threat-to-china-not-seen-as-credible

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« Reply #673 on: September 04, 2017, 03:28:31 pm »
Speaking of money, here's yet another "brilliant " idea from Trump, he tweets this am that he is threatening to cut off all trade with anyone who does business with NK. Well there goes not only China, the US' largest trading partner, but also South Korea, India, Russia, and a number of others. Australia would also be hard hit. Trump brags about being an astute businessman and yet he seems bent on creating a global recession.
C'mon Mueller, get that obstruction case going so rhe US etal can be rid of this jerk.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/03/north-korea-bomb-trumps-trade-threat-to-china-not-seen-as-credible

If we're not going to militarily attack North Korea, and I don't think the odds are good of doing so, the only way of reigning them in is to deprive them of the money needed to pay for Kim's fancy flying toys. China stands in the way of that. It has been paying lip service to western demands on North Korea for decades while secretly keeping fat boy in business. They're more worried about a unified Korea on their border, or lots of North Korean refugees if Kim goes down than anything he does in terms of nuclear capability.
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« Reply #674 on: September 04, 2017, 04:44:14 pm »
If we're not going to militarily attack North Korea, and I don't think the odds are good of doing so, the only way of reigning them in is to deprive them of the money needed to pay for Kim's fancy flying toys. China stands in the way of that. It has been paying lip service to western demands on North Korea for decades while secretly keeping fat boy in business. They're more worried about a unified Korea on their border, or lots of North Korean refugees if Kim goes down than anything he does in terms of nuclear capability.

Umm, Trump stopping trade with China won't stop China from doing business with NK. Pissing off China, South Korea and the others would only serve to isolate the US financially in the same way Trump has done politically. Another type of "wall" I suppose?

I wish I had your confidence that Trump won't try to rain down some of his "fire and fury" on Kim.

Perhaps cooler heads will keep the "nuclear football" out of Trump's reach as they did with Nixon in his final days in office. 
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