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Offline SirJohn

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« Reply #405 on: July 11, 2017, 03:01:22 pm »
The trump campaign attempted to collude with Russia to win the election.   A serious no-no. 
. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/10/why-donald-trump-jr-s-meeting-with-a-russian-lawyer-matters.html

You realize that even if there is incontrovertible evidence, freely admitted by Donald Trump himself, that he and his entire campaign colluded with the Russians, arranged for the hacking, took money from them, and promised Russia things if they got elected, 95% of Trump supporters would just shrug it off without a second thought, right?
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Online Michael Hardner

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« Reply #406 on: July 11, 2017, 03:16:02 pm »
You presume the people in academia are intellectuals.

You seem to presume intellectual = intelligent.  I don't.

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« Reply #407 on: July 11, 2017, 03:17:08 pm »
  95% of Trump supporters would just shrug it off without a second thought, right?

At some point, the brutal refrain of negative news will chip away at their psyches, I firmly believe.  Especially, this will happen if the impact of the whole clown show makes it impossible to achieve his promises, which are impossible anyway. 

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« Reply #408 on: July 12, 2017, 11:17:17 am »
At some point, the brutal refrain of negative news will chip away at their psyches, I firmly believe.  Especially, this will happen if the impact of the whole clown show makes it impossible to achieve his promises, which are impossible anyway.
Actually if anything his inability to achieve is promises are actually HELPING him.

Trump for example promised to replace Obamacare. But many Trump supporters depend on its coverage. So the longer he goes without replacing Obamacare the better off he'll be.



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« Reply #411 on: July 21, 2017, 09:19:57 am »
Trump is suddenly a fan of NAFTA:

Well of course. He was never going to tear it up. All along this has been just a negotiating tactic. It's from Business For Dummies. "I'm gonna tear it up. It's a bad bad deal. I'm tearing it up. We got schlonged real bad on this deal. We gotta get rid of this. Such a bad deal. You wouldn't believe it, it's so bad.  ....   well, I might not tear it up, but we need changes or I'm tearing it up."


As for the contents of the link, though, I wholeheartedly agree.  The Canadian government thinks free trade is great for Canadian companies, but not for Canadian citizens.  The $20 "de minimis" threshold is the chintziest in the entire world.  This has been pointed out numerous times to the government, and the government has no interest in changing it, either because they like collecting taxes or because they're trying to protect Canadian brick-and-mortar retailers.


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« Reply #412 on: July 21, 2017, 09:23:01 am »
Meanwhile, as Robert Mueller requests information from Deutsche Bank, Trump is asking people about his powers of pardon. Can he pardon his family? Can he pardon himself? This is allegedly what he's asking.

Deutsche Bank is notorious for laundering money from Russia, coincidentally.

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« Reply #413 on: July 21, 2017, 09:40:41 am »
Don't like to comment so much on these clowns but the NYT interview seems to have been unplanned, and now another lead lawyer has quit.

I read that he described the WH as 'unbelievable' in how they run things.  I doubt whatever they did is as bad as the response, ie. Obstruction of Justice

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« Reply #414 on: July 21, 2017, 10:32:27 pm »
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« Reply #415 on: July 22, 2017, 12:51:12 am »
At this point, I think even Trump is surprised he's not impeached.

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« Reply #416 on: July 22, 2017, 10:53:05 am »
Trump announced today that he has absolute power to pardon anyone incriminated in Mueller's investigation, including himself.

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« Reply #417 on: July 22, 2017, 03:36:53 pm »
Trump announced today that he has absolute power to pardon anyone incriminated in Mueller's investigation, including himself.

Will the Republicans in Congress bend over and take a dictatorship, or will they do something about it?

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But frankly, the history isn’t the point. The basic problem with self-pardon is that it would make a mockery of the very idea that the U.S. operates under the rule of law. A president who could self-pardon could violate literally any federal law with impunity, knowing that the only risk was removal from office by impeachment.

We have a name for an elected leader who is outside the law: dictator. And dictatorship is fundamentally inconsistent with the republic established by the Constitution. In fact, it’s a little difficult to think of any single idea that would more grossly violate the rule of law than a president free to break any and every law and then wave a get-out-of-jail-free card.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-07-21/trump-s-pardoning-himself-would-trash-constitution

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« Reply #418 on: July 22, 2017, 05:58:03 pm »
Reading World Order by Kissenger now and it's making me think that Trump came around just in time for us to prevent another one later.

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« Reply #419 on: July 23, 2017, 11:05:35 am »
Will the Republicans in Congress bend over and take a dictatorship, or will they do something about it?

I tend to agree with the commentator on MSNBC the other night. Republican leaders have strapped themselves to the mast of the SS Trump, and they won't be doing anything until the water is over their heads. The vast majority of their base still worships him, so principles be damned. They are going wherever he takes the ship.
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