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« Reply #8235 on: March 30, 2023, 06:33:59 pm »
He's not gonna go to jail.
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« Reply #8236 on: March 30, 2023, 07:04:19 pm »
He's not gonna go to jail.
I sure hope you're wrong about that.

There is a good chance he will die of a cheeseburger-induced heart attack before he is convicted. And I know that even if he does go to jail it will probably be a minimum security facility. But hey, at the very least:
- Him trying to defend himself still provides some satisfaction, even if his conviction ends up being something minimal like home confinement
- A conviction is still an embarrassment to him

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« Reply #8237 on: March 30, 2023, 08:29:32 pm »
A little bit more information...

From: https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/politics/donald-trump-indictment/index.html
Donald Trump faces more than 30 counts related to business fraud in an indictment from a Manhattan grand jury...

Wow, 30+ charges? I have to admit, I am completely stumped about what they might be charging him with. I thought the stormy daniels case was fairly straight forward.

Ok some things seem possible or likely.... charges for falsifying business records, tax fraud. Maybe something to obstruction of justice or engaging in conspiracy... But that might result in less than half a dozen charges. So what did he do to break the law 30 times?
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #8238 on: March 30, 2023, 09:20:41 pm »
This is a great day for democracy!

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« Reply #8239 on: March 30, 2023, 09:38:10 pm »
Or it's the beginning of the end of democracy.

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« Reply #8240 on: March 30, 2023, 10:10:18 pm »
Or it's the beginning of the end of democracy.

It had to be done.

If Trump was let off the hook, it would pave the way for DeSantis and others to do worse.

Evil prevails when good people are silent.

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« Reply #8241 on: March 30, 2023, 10:17:52 pm »
I agree it had to be done, but that crowd is so consumed with its own incoherent raging feelings of victimhood, they may never recover from the ugly baby tantrum they're now likely to have.

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« Reply #8242 on: March 31, 2023, 01:45:14 am »
Or it's the beginning of the end of democracy.
Actually I think the beginning of the end of democracy probably started either in the mid-20th century (when the republican party adopted the southern strategy, and aligned with the white evangelical movement) or with the appearance of Newt Gingrich (who typified the "victory at all costs" mentality, where republicans decided to substitute fake moral outrage and dirty tricks over policies to appeal to the electorate. As bad as Trump is (and he is definitely the worst president in our lifetimes) he is almost a byproduct of the toxic sludge that is the republican party.

This indictment is not the end of democracy, it is actually an attempt to pull the US back from the brink and perhaps restore some of the democratic norms.

I agree it had to be done, but that crowd is so consumed with its own incoherent raging feelings of victimhood, they may never recover from the ugly baby tantrum they're now likely to have.
But here's the thing, they have been consumed with their "incoherent rage feelings of victimhood" pretty much since Stubby McBonespurs descended the escalator to enter the republican primaries. They have been throwing their temper tantrums for over half a decade now. I don't think its going to get any worse because the badness is an ever-present defect of the MAGAchud.
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« Reply #8243 on: March 31, 2023, 02:09:28 am »
I think Megan McCain (daughter of former senator and war veteran John McCain) just won the internet.
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« Reply #8244 on: March 31, 2023, 07:56:56 am »
You'd think Republicans would wait until the indictment was unsealed before they declared it illegitimate and an outrage. They could at least then pretend their opposition isn't purely political and that they still believe that nobody is above the law. Disantis saying he won't cooperate with an extradition before he even knows what the charges are seems rather extreme for a country that has traditionally respected law and order.
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« Reply #8245 on: March 31, 2023, 09:04:23 am »
You'd think Republicans would wait until the indictment was unsealed before they declared it illegitimate and an outrage. They could at least then pretend their opposition isn't purely political and that they still believe that nobody is above the law. Disantis saying he won't cooperate with an extradition before he even knows what the charges are seems rather extreme for a country that has traditionally respected law and order.
It would be so easy for the republicans to pull off a win-win here...

Claim that you "trust the American people on the jury to make the right verdict". Maye if you are worried about the Trump base, make some sort of vague comment about "I liked what Trump has done in the past". And if Trump gets convicted (which I suspect most republican leaders are actually hoping for), they would find it easier to absolve themselves.

Instead they seem to be trying to tie themselves to a sinking boat anchor. Pushing a pro-trump narrative (and giving even more power for a racist con-artist to wreck your party in the future.)

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #8246 on: March 31, 2023, 09:43:41 am »
Trump has locked up the 2024 GOP nomination for sure.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #8247 on: April 01, 2023, 01:10:15 am »
Trump 'INDICATED'... fundraising: $4 million in one {the first} day!

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« Reply #8248 on: April 02, 2023, 07:34:21 am »
Well said. Nobody should ever care what Trumpers think ever again.
https://twitter.com/SergeantAqGo/status/1642249932911329281?t=lhOyRhP_E7UpOYkUUh2vHA&s=19

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #8249 on: April 04, 2023, 08:26:02 pm »
I imagine if there were evidence Joe Biden paid off Twitter to keep the Hunter Biden story secret and then falsified documents to hide that payoff, Republicans would be opposed to even investigating it, never mind charging him.