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Offline Omni

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #5790 on: May 27, 2020, 04:34:16 pm »



First off many if laws in the U.S. are passed by states not he federal government and so using the prison incarceration rates in a discussion about Trump is off topic but hey why let that stop Waldo because hey let's infer Trump is responsible for crime in the US and the amount of people arrested in the US. Its his fault.

Next If one goes to the internet to get statistics to pose as an expert on criminology they will most certainly find numerous sites listing the US as having the highest prison rate per capita in the world per 100,000 people and a total of anywhere from 2.2 to 2.4 million prisoners.

The problem with such comparisons is that:

1-there is not a quantitative measure of how the United States ranks in incarceration rates compared to countries with comparable criminal justice systems
2-such comparisons do NOT look at  other indicators not measured in the Rule of Law index used to come up with these numbers, such as penal policies, prison conditions, and use of fines and other sanctions;
3-the comparisons won’t reflect number of persons arrested who are killed and show do not show up on the incarceration list;
4-the number won’t show the number who are not incarcerated because there are no prisons to put them in;
5-the numbers do not take into account prisoners detained for pre-trial detention or administrative detention which many countries use to keep people detained indefinitely;
6-the numbers do not account for deaths in the jails by torture and disease;
7-the statisics from countries like North Korea are unknown and can not be relied on to be accurate from countries like China, Russia, Iran and other totalitarian states who for political reasons hide their political prisoner numbers;
8-the people arriving at the statistics rely on evidence from the countries that therefore may be self-serving and inaccurate.

That said I would expose Waldo to go off topic and pose as criminology expert and use statistics to prop his political biases and in particular anti-US, anti-Trump beliefs..

Omni help! Omni come help me that bad man is back and he's supporting Shady! Help! Help!

The crimes trump is most responsible for are the ones he commits. Apparently you do need some help.