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Offline gh0sthacked

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« Reply #930 on: October 11, 2017, 02:30:50 pm »
As per my cite, a lot of those 'unarmed' people are shot while struggling with cops for their gun, or are innocent bystanders killed by accident. It would be nice to see some honest statistics, but just going by the ones which have gotten the most coverage in the news there's like two guys I think I feel sorry for. The one who got shot when he reached into his car for his drivers license at gas station (cop immediately fired) and the idiot who says he has a gun, then reaches for something. The rest are, as they say, Darwin in action.

Did I wish that welsh footballer who reached through the bars to pet the lion harm? Nope. Am I happy he got bit? Nope. Do I feel particularly sorry for him? Nope.

There was the incident where the police were searching for Chris Dorner and shot up a truck with two women in it? Yeah it was not even the same vehicle or the same colour. So what was their excuses?  Oh, I guess more training!  I'd have fired those cops and possible criminal charges.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/02/police-officers-who-shot-two-innocent-women-103-times-wont-be-fired/357771/

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Yesterday, a commission found that the officers violated department policy when they thought the sound of a newspaper hitting the pavement was a gunshot and opened fire on two women who were, again, doing absolutely nothing wrong except driving a truck that didn't even look like the one they believed their suspect to be in.

That's some fine policing. Hopefully now they can tell the difference between blue and charcoal gray.

Looks like it happened twice, a different officer.

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Shortly after the women were mistaken for Dorner, another police officer shot at another pickup truck. This one was black Honda Ridgeline. Brian McGee drove his cruiser into the truck and opened fire three times. The man inside the truck was not hit, but he sustained back and head injuries. The city of Torrance, where the incident took place, gave him $20,000 to replace his truck which was, again, a black Honda Ridgeline and not a gray Nissan Titan.

And this was not under Trump, but Obama.

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« Reply #931 on: October 11, 2017, 02:43:44 pm »
It's sort of funny how you always side with criminals and not with cops.

I tend to side with what dash cams/body cams show actually occurred.

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« Reply #932 on: October 11, 2017, 04:18:16 pm »
There was the incident where the police were searching for Chris Dorner and shot up a truck with two women in it? Yeah it was not even the same vehicle or the same colour. So what was their excuses?  Oh, I guess more training!  I'd have fired those cops and possible criminal charges.

I don't disagree with this. They should all be fired. As for training, I've been saying for some time now that police are woefully ill-trained, and that too much of their training almost resembles conditioning - teaching them to be constantly alert and afraid and that every threat should be met with a gun.

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« Reply #933 on: October 11, 2017, 05:24:48 pm »
I don't disagree with this. They should all be fired. As for training, I've been saying for some time now that police are woefully ill-trained, and that too much of their training almost resembles conditioning - teaching them to be constantly alert and afraid and that every threat should be met with a gun.

Well that certainly sounds like an increase in awareness. Congrats.

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« Reply #934 on: October 11, 2017, 06:07:10 pm »
Well that certainly sounds like an increase in awareness. Congrats.

I don't know how unaware you are but I've said it from the beginning. There's no change in my position.
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« Reply #935 on: October 11, 2017, 07:00:12 pm »
I don't disagree with this. They should all be fired. As for training, I've been saying for some time now that police are woefully ill-trained, and that too much of their training almost resembles conditioning - teaching them to be constantly alert and afraid and that every threat should be met with a gun.

I guess deescalation is no longer an option. It's a very snap reaction. You mentioned the guy at the gas station actually complying with the officer 'get your license', and then shoots him as he reached in his truck. I mean that's complying with the officer and still, that man got shot. To me, these snappy officers are not stable and not in control of themselves, let alone the situation.

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« Reply #936 on: October 12, 2017, 08:18:01 am »
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41598616

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But he added: "We cannot keep FEMA, the Military & the First Responders, who have been amazing (under the most difficult circumstances) in P.R. forever!"

Can't keep Puerto Ricans as 3rd class US citizens forever either.

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« Reply #937 on: October 17, 2017, 04:25:53 pm »
The Donald Trump subreddit forum has now led to murder.

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« Reply #938 on: October 18, 2017, 06:38:05 am »
https://amp.local10.com/news/politics/trump-speaks-to-widow-of-sgt-la-david-johnson

Trump is saying he has proof that this was a lie.

Niger is his own Behgazi ... let's see if FOX gives a ****.

Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #939 on: October 18, 2017, 06:51:13 am »
https://twitter.com/NeverTrumpTexan/status/919413754407936000


When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Benghazi returned home, both Obama and Clinton were there.

When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Niger returned, Trump was golfing.

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« Reply #940 on: October 18, 2017, 10:40:36 am »
https://twitter.com/NeverTrumpTexan/status/919413754407936000


When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Benghazi returned home, both Obama and Clinton were there.

When the remains of 4 soldiers ambushed in Niger returned, Trump was golfing.


Clinton also had the chance to SAVE those soldiers. They could have come home alive along with Chris Stevens.  Their deaths took place on Sept 11, 2012.  Remember when she blamed it on a video? Then rectracted? What difference does it make!

Trump is an idiot. No doubt about that.

Offline Michael Hardner

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« Reply #941 on: October 18, 2017, 10:51:13 am »
Clinton also had the chance to SAVE those soldiers. They could have come home alive along with Chris Stevens.  Their deaths took place on Sept 11, 2012.  Remember when she blamed it on a video? Then rectracted? What difference does it make!

Trump is an idiot. No doubt about that.

The details are starting to come out about Niger.  It may also be a ****-up.  Do you think FOX will hold him to task ?

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« Reply #942 on: October 18, 2017, 12:10:30 pm »
Ooh yeah. I'm sure there'll be several dozen congressional hearings, just like Benghazi. /s

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« Reply #943 on: October 18, 2017, 02:47:15 pm »
Clinton also had the chance to SAVE those soldiers.

How? I believe the Republicans held something like 17 separate investigations into Benghazi and weren't able to find a way to blame Clinton for ANYTHING.
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« Reply #944 on: October 18, 2017, 02:56:40 pm »
McCain is really gunning for Trump...
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John McCain: Trump administration is not being up front about Niger ambush
From CNN's Ashley Killough

Sen. John McCain says the Senate Armed Services Committee is asking for information about the Niger attack — but it isn't getting the answers it needs. He was not specific about what exactly he's asking for.

Asked if the Trump administration is being up front about what happened. McCain replied, "No."

Then, he was asked if he wanted to see a congressional investigation into the ambush.

"Investigations? I want the information that the senate armed services committee deserves and needs to start with," he said. "Then you decide whether a quote investigation is needed or not."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/18/politics/trump-latest/?lf-content=220598135:lb-post-a04bc44b6087333220cdce194fdd431b@livefyre.com&hubRefSrc=permalink