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« Reply #8115 on: December 23, 2022, 10:43:01 pm »
Yup. And as I pointed out before, he lied about it...

He lied when he said he was going to release them. (Because obviously he never did)

And then later, he tried to backtrack by saying he could not release them because they were under audit, which was another lie because there are no legal barriers to releasing returns even when under audit.

So 2 lies (that aren't even consistent with each other), from the republican that the MAGAchud claim "tells it like it is".

Only two?
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« Reply #8116 on: December 26, 2022, 12:28:00 pm »

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« Reply #8117 on: December 26, 2022, 01:59:02 pm »
Weird that he would bring the special prosecutor's wife and family into it.

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« Reply #8118 on: December 26, 2022, 08:50:45 pm »
Weird that he would bring the special prosecutor's wife and family into it.

AG Garland appointed Jack Smith, to serve as Special Counsel to oversee two ongoing criminal investigations:
=> the first is the investigation, as described in court filings in the District of Columbia, into whether any person or entity unlawfully interfered with the transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021.
=> the second is the ongoing investigation involving classified documents and other presidential records, as well as the possible obstruction of that investigation, referenced and described in court filings submitted in a pending matter in the Southern District of Florida.

in any case, it's a tried & true Trump formula to attempt to publicly vilify, belittle and ostracize prosecutors; the most immediate past target being, of course, special prosecutor Robert Mueller and the 'Russia Investigation'. As I just read, Jack Smith's wife is a most accomplished 'progressive' documentarian... I don't read that she's overtly political but certainly some of her documentary's speak for themselves in that regard.

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« Reply #8119 on: December 26, 2022, 09:04:49 pm »
Weird that he would bring the special prosecutor's wife and family into it.

It's Trump.
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« Reply #8120 on: December 26, 2022, 09:17:59 pm »
It's Trump.
Exactly.  There should be no real surprises anymore.
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« Reply #8121 on: December 27, 2022, 06:42:32 am »
Exactly.  There should be no real surprises anymore.
You'd think. But that seems low even for you guys. Is there a depth at which you would say "I cannot worship this man any longer"? You're still going to be full MAGAhead when he gets the nomination, obviously.
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« Reply #8122 on: December 27, 2022, 07:30:33 am »
I don't think that the decline of Trumpism will be any more predictable than its ascent.

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« Reply #8123 on: December 30, 2022, 01:00:46 pm »
He had a bank account in China. Wow.

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« Reply #8124 on: December 30, 2022, 04:34:37 pm »
If DOnald Trump is not prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, it's going to pave the way for a younger, more prepared autocratic leader (DeSantis?) to orchestrate a successful coup. There is a reason Trump has "Mein Kampt" on his bedside table.

If America does not act now, we will see the 4th Reich as our neighbours by the end of the decade.
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« Reply #8125 on: January 02, 2023, 06:31:14 pm »
He had a bank account in China. Wow.
Yes, one that he had claimed he shut down.

Which brings up the question... what was it used for?

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« Reply #8126 on: January 02, 2023, 07:00:50 pm »
So we have had access to Trump's taxes for a few days now.

So far, nothing earth-shattering. We already knew he was a tax cheat (thanks to the recent conviction of the Trump organization for tax fraud). We already knew he is a failed businessman (based on his multiple bankruptcies). And his taxes seem to re-enforce those notions.

Lets take a look at what we have learned:

- A mandatory audit (that all presidential tax returns are subject to) was not initially done, until the returns were actually requested by the committee (and even then they didn't give the required resources to do a proper audit.)

- He had a bank account in China (as another poster pointed out). Yet he had claimed that he had closed that account down before he was elected. Which brings up the question... what was it used for? Did he have some sort of business there that might have influenced his actions?

- Trump paid very little in taxes for the 6 years. Some years had zero taxes, others had $750. About the only 'successful' year that he had was when he sold one of the properties he inherited from his father. This tells us 2 things:

    * It points to him being a failed businessman
    * It reminds us that he lied in the 2020 election, when he claimed he paid "millions" in taxes

- Very limited charitable donations (and they haven't found evidence of him donating his salary to charity for at least some of the time, like he claimed he was doing)

- He actually paid more in taxes to several foreign countries than he did to the United States

- Trump may have been abusing something called Schedule C. (This involves him making "sole proprietor reports" for businesses with no revenue but high expenses, allowing him to claim a loss to offset his taxes. Trump had been found guilty of tax fraud back in the 1980s for doing the same thing.)

- Other potential areas of tax fraud include claiming personal expenses as business expenses and giving non-repaid 'loans' to his children in order to avoid gift taxes

See:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tax-returns-2020-debate-video-b2253769.html (Trump's lie of paying millions in taxes)
https://www.salon.com/2022/12/28/brazen-cheating-revealed_partner/ (A description of possible tax fraud)
https://news.yahoo.com/foreign-accounts-melania-modelling-no-072853278.html (information about his non-existent charitable deductions, as well as foreign business dealings)


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« Reply #8127 on: January 02, 2023, 07:29:43 pm »
You'd think. But that seems low even for you guys. Is there a depth at which you would say "I cannot worship this man any longer"? You're still going to be full MAGAhead when he gets the nomination, obviously.

You are talking about the same people who are making jokes about an 82 year old man being bludgeoned by a hammer.  There has never been such a clear cut example of good (democrats) vs evil (republicans), since World War II, when we were fighting against the Third Reich.

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« Reply #8128 on: January 15, 2023, 07:54:22 am »
Trump swears he didn't r ape E. Jean Carroll but also swears that she "enjoyed" it.

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« Reply #8129 on: January 15, 2023, 05:18:04 pm »
I read Mary Trump's book when it came out.  It did not portray Trump in a positive light.  I would not be surprised if Trump not only sexually assaulted the victim, but also had sexual relations with underage girls, as he was a frequent guest at Epstein Island.