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Offline Omni

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« Reply #6900 on: January 09, 2021, 04:31:23 pm »
Well let's see, donny is the first president to be kicked off twitter, the first president to be on his way to be impeached twice, and then of course after stating he wouldn't have time to play golf such as his predecessor Obama did as he would be too busy, he has managed to play 308 rounds during one term while vs 333 rounds in two terms by Obama. Then there's the criminal charges. B' bye donny.
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« Reply #6901 on: January 09, 2021, 05:53:25 pm »
Trump has been been permanently banned from twitter.  I agree with the sentiment (though i hope it doesn't just create a rightwing social media platform that causes yet more echo chambers).  This begs the question though...why are other really bad leaders around the world that spread dangerous BS too not also permanently suspended from twitter?
Because it's all brand new ground that no one has had to explore yet.  No one even knows how to begin doing so, except for the usual suspects who know that all paths that branch off from theirs leads straight to communism. It's such an ingrained primal fear it's a wonder it never found expression in the bible.

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« Reply #6902 on: January 09, 2021, 06:35:02 pm »
There is a rather interesting (if not long) write-up on how they actually managed to track down Mabus/Markuze, and finally get the police to act.

https://skeptools.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/case-study-notorious-spammer-brought-down-twitter-tumblr-social-media-mabus/

To tie this back to Trump...

The Trump case reminds me of Mabus...
- The obsessive use of Twitter, jumping from account to account when necessary
- The inability to follow any of society's norms
- The unwillingness for authorities to hold him to account (the police in the case of Mabus, the Republicans in the case of Trump)

He actually replied to me once on either MLW or Blue Oval Forum. I feel special now.

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« Reply #6903 on: January 09, 2021, 06:55:32 pm »
So, impeachment on the grounds Trump instigated insurrection apparently won't fly in court once the words are legally parsed and examined for incontrovertible evidence of intent however clear his actions are evidence enough to know what happened.

That said, Trump would have to invoke a precedent in his defence that was set when a Ku Klux Klansman charged with inciting violence against some state legislature in the 90's was found not guilty. In addition to that Trump's Republican victims of the attempted insurrection in Congress would be forced to use this defence in his name.

The potential to do damage to Republicans by forcing this issue makes the effort well worth it.  **** every last one of them and the horses they rode in on too.

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« Reply #6904 on: January 09, 2021, 08:39:37 pm »
Impeachment happens in Congress and Congress isn't a court.
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« Reply #6905 on: January 09, 2021, 09:27:33 pm »
Trump has been been permanently banned from twitter.  I agree with the sentiment (though i hope it doesn't just create a rightwing social media platform that causes yet more echo chambers).  This begs the question though...why are other really bad leaders around the world that spread dangerous BS too not also permanently suspended from twitter?

He's been banned now from all the major platforms, including Tik Tok and Pinterest.   :D

I'm trying hard here but I can't think of any other world leaders that tried to cling to power by inciting a violent insurrection against a democratically elected government. 

Names?

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« Reply #6906 on: January 09, 2021, 09:59:03 pm »
Impeachment happens in Congress and Congress isn't a court.
Then why does Trump need lawyers to represent him in Congress?

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« Reply #6907 on: January 09, 2021, 10:09:19 pm »
Then why does Trump need lawyers to represent him in Congress?

He may have lawyers but Congress is the jury.
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« Reply #6908 on: January 09, 2021, 10:59:25 pm »
He may have lawyers but Congress is the jury.

Yep, Giuliani and Dershowitz. I wonder if that crew can keep him out of jail.
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« Reply #6909 on: January 09, 2021, 11:54:21 pm »
He's been banned now from all the major platforms, including Tik Tok and Pinterest.   :D

I'm trying hard here but I can't think of any other world leaders that tried to cling to power by inciting a violent insurrection against a democratically elected government. 

The Chinese government has been accused of murdering prisoners from minority groups to harvest their organs for profit, and forcibly sterilizing Muslim minorities, and then gov officials go on twitter and lie about it to cover it up.
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« Reply #6910 on: January 10, 2021, 12:39:41 am »
He may have lawyers but Congress is the jury.
Now you're getting it.

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« Reply #6911 on: January 10, 2021, 12:42:46 am »
Yep, Giuliani and Dershowitz. I wonder if that crew can keep him out of jail.
The better question is will they dim the spotlight shining on the spectacle or brighten it. The answer is obvious.

To bad he couldn't get Sidney Powell as well.

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« Reply #6912 on: January 10, 2021, 10:21:56 am »
The Chinese government has been accused of murdering prisoners from minority groups to harvest their organs for profit, and forcibly sterilizing Muslim minorities, and then gov officials go on twitter and lie about it to cover it up.
We wheel and deal with China's government for profit, so what's your point?

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« Reply #6913 on: January 10, 2021, 01:03:42 pm »
The Chinese government has been accused of murdering prisoners from minority groups to harvest their organs for profit, and forcibly sterilizing Muslim minorities, and then gov officials go on twitter and lie about it to cover it up.

Trump was allowed to gaslight for four years as well, about COVID, about his achievements, his staff.  Nothing happened to his account.

His election fraud tweets started getting a disclaimer, as did the tweets of other people, including people who called it too early for Ossoff and Warnock (IOW just standard procedure and not biased).

He only lost his account when he *incited an insurgency*. 

There is absolutely no other precedent of this sort of behaviour within a democratic society in the social-media age so the argument that others do it is way off-base.
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« Reply #6914 on: January 10, 2021, 01:36:40 pm »
The right is really going all in on this sOcIal MeDIa cenSorsHiP thing in hopes people forget the president incited a mob to attack the capitol to try and overthrow an election and murder lawmakers, huh? like they can't even bring themselves to muster a half hearted "thoughts and prayers" for the cop that got beaten to death when you know they'd be putting his name and picture up everywhere if he died during a BLM protest. Just the vilest scum, but I'm told there are many fine people on that side.
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