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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6390 on: October 24, 2020, 11:32:16 pm »
Biden has been in public office either as a senate or vice president. His betrayal is called corruption because he traded the interest of America for his personal gain

other than your repeated references to the most suspect 'GNews', you've put nothing forward that speaks of said "betrayal". Incredibly you expect members here to take you seriously!

Trump was a successful businessman. Whether he's a womanizer or not before he took office can only be judged by a moral level. He might be a playboy but he's not corrupted.

the farce that continues over a claimed IRS audit has stopped Trump from releasing his taxes... even though many tax experts have stated an actual audit of taxes shouldn't preclude anyone from releasing past years taxes. What's he hiding, hey! Trump is said to owe ~$420 million dollars to... to who? To who/what is Trump beholding to for that money? Trump is said to have $900 million in loans coming due in the upcoming years... loans from who? I suggest your claimed statement about a lack of Trump corruption is on par with your claimed statement that, as you said, "Trump was a successful businessman"!  ;D You should have stated Trump was a most successful ConMan!


You can hate Trump but you need to have the gut to face the brutal fact that the guy carrying your hope actually is evil. 100 times worse than Trump. At least, Trump is a human being, might not be very likable to some people. But the Biden family was a bunch of monsters under a nice suite.

you have me confused with an American carrying hope... or a wannabe American like member Shady. I most certainly have a preference in terms of Canada-U.S. relations, in terms of how the U.S. impacts upon Canada, in terms of global stability, in terms of gaining a sense of lost normalcy, in terms of stopping the daily Trump shyte show, etc., etc., etc..
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6391 on: October 25, 2020, 07:23:32 am »
How come your reply is like the Chinese Communist Party? Always ignore the truth, the fact, instead, focus on who the person is, what's the person's motivation.

Well.. when the person is a noted scam artist, bankruptcy king and liar then ... yes ... I focus on that.  It's rare to have such a clearly terrible person as president.

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You don't need to trust my word but I encourage you to verify. By the way, have you ever verify anything from the fake mainstream media? or You just take whatever they say?

Trump's idiocy was firmly cemented in my wall of knowledge before he ever decided to dupe the American people and run for president.

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Comes to Biden's scandal, even FBI admitted that they have had the hard drives since last December but they haven't done anything to it yet, it's the Whistleblower Movement that got the content of hard drives and released it to the public. However, Twitter and Facebook blocked the news and deleted people's accounts. How do they know if it's true or not?

The FBI hasn't charged anybody or even admitted there's anything there.  And it belongs to Biden's son right ?  Why do I care if he has a sex tape ?

Like I say - you are a troll - perhaps a paid one - or a cultish dupe.

Noted you didn't answer my question about being into politics before 2016.  I happen to know a Canadian MAGA personally.  He was one of the dumbest, most naive people I had ever known and barely knew what was going on in politics when I knew him.  Now he's an expert on China, the economy and the 'deep state'.

I now believe you types will disappear after this election, maybe surfacing every election to push a fringe candidate.  Hopefully the conservative parties will learn their lesson from all of this.  It may be too late for the Republicans.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6392 on: October 25, 2020, 12:34:12 pm »
Well.. when the person is a noted scam artist, bankruptcy king and liar then ... yes ... I focus on that.  It's rare to have such a clearly terrible person as president.

Trump's idiocy was firmly cemented in my wall of knowledge before he ever decided to dupe the American people and run for president.

The FBI hasn't charged anybody or even admitted there's anything there.  And it belongs to Biden's son right ?  Why do I care if he has a sex tape ?

Like I say - you are a troll - perhaps a paid one - or a cultish dupe.

Noted you didn't answer my question about being into politics before 2016.  I happen to know a Canadian MAGA personally.  He was one of the dumbest, most naive people I had ever known and barely knew what was going on in politics when I knew him.  Now he's an expert on China, the economy and the 'deep state'.

I now believe you types will disappear after this election, maybe surfacing every election to push a fringe candidate.  Hopefully the conservative parties will learn their lesson from all of this.  It may be too late for the Republicans.
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« Reply #6393 on: October 25, 2020, 12:48:28 pm »
Trump is taking positions which are popular with a people who are taught to hate communism, socialism, and even the hint of socially responsible capitalism. Not to even have to mention the racist hate that necessarily goes along with their hate for China.

That Trump platform for the sake of the election almost certainly won't continue after the election if he should be able to win. And there's still a good possibility of him winning because many different mechanisms have been created in his favour.

This would almost certainly lead to the US becoming a fascit regime.

Would this be a bad thing for Canada?

Maybe rather than Canadians pouring so much emotion into their election by taking sides, the implications of either of them winning could be taken into consideration?

My first question is, how will the extremely dangerous situation between the US, Russia, and China come to evolve under Democratic party control?

Russia and China are being pushed around unnecessarily by the US, while we can only depend on M.A.D. to keep us safe! Russia and China may not win with either of them but there's little doubt that both of them have the resolve to not lose the final big fight.

How do Biden and Trump compare to the real future we can look forward to when the US is also resolved to maintain world power?
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6394 on: October 25, 2020, 08:47:59 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/25/business/media/hunter-biden-wall-street-journal-trump.html

The Biden laptop story... crashing and burning...

The WSJ wouldn't run it...

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6395 on: October 25, 2020, 10:29:32 pm »
There's a lot of concern regarding what happens after the election if Trump loses, as appears very likely. People are worried about whether Trump will accept the outcome. People are wondering whether there are legal shenanigans that Trump could use to hang on to power.
I think what some people are worried about is that more Democrats voted by mail than republicans, and mail-in ballots take longer to process/count than ballots cast on election day (or in an advanced poll.)  So, you could have a situation where early results on election night favor Trump, but once all the ballots are counted Biden becomes the winner. What Trump might try to do is get the supreme court to interfere, and have them stop counting election night, with the argument that "we have to know who the winner is right away".

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Trump will of course claim the election results have been rigged, but I don't think the Republican establishment is going to go to the wall to help him overturn the election.
Keep in mind that what benefits Trump may also benefit down-ballot republicans (such as congress-critters). If they help Trump, they may also be helping keep the Senate in republican hands. I think Moscow Mitch would approve.

If there is a chance that the election could swing on a few states that could be close enough for the outcome to be affected by recounts and court challenges (as we saw in the 2000 election) then the Republicans would of course fight those battles.  But if the results turn out as lopsided as polling indicates right now, Republicans will have to accept that the writing is on the wall, whether Trump likes it or not.[/quote]
Here is the thing though...in a poll, roughly 1/3rd of democrats said they planned to vote on election day, whereas roughly 2/3rds of republicans said they would. That is a substantially large disparity, and could dwarf even a large democratic victory.
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Unlike Trump, they have to think of the future.  And to attempt to overturn the results of an election would damage their future for a long time to come.
First of all, keep in mind that congress critters tend to be quite interested in their own political fortunes. Staying in power NOW (even for a brief time) may be more important to them than some hypothetical Republican victory down the road (when the current crop of politicians have long retired.)

Secondly, in the past 2 decades we have seen Republicans get the courts to interfere with elections in the past, they had a president get them involved in a war that ended up very unpopular, and they have selected a racist con artist to be the nominee. And yet their current presidental candidate may get ~40% of the vote. Seems like they may think they are somehow bulletproof.
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Mitch McConnell has already gotten what he wanted out of Donald Trump.  When Amy Coney Barrett is installed on the Supreme Court, McConnell's biggest dream will have come to fruition: conservative control of the courts for decades to come. He has already filled lower courts with conservative judges, and when Coney-Barrett is confirmed, that will be the conclusion of his ambitions. McConnell has already won, so what else does Trump have to offer to get McConnell to stick his neck out?
But the problem is, the Democrats do have tactics that can be used to undo so much of what the republicans have done, if they do win both the Senate and the White House. (Assuming of course they want to play hardball.)

Ending the fillibuster will allow them to cram through all sorts of legislation. Granting statehood to Puerto Rico and Washington DC will make it much harder for the Republicans to win the white house or senate (since those would likely be solid republican seats.) Expanding both the supreme court and lower courts will undo all of Moscow Mitch's dirty tricks in manipulating the judiciary. And they can pass a new version of the voting rights act, to prevent state-level republicans from gerrymandering and voter suppression.

I suspect they would want to maintain as much power as they can to try to block that.

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And, even if McConnell himself did commit to helping Trump cling to power, there's the question of how many other Senators would be on board.   They have only the barest majority right now.  Mitt Romney will not support any attempted coup attempted by Trump.  Neither would Lisa Murkowski.  Several other senators are no fans of Trump.
Yet they all voted not to impeach him. Seems being 'no fans of Trump' doesn't mean they actually want to actually do anything to remove him.
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What about the Supreme Court?  They don't have to worry about re-election. But, they also don't owe Trump anything. They have their reputations and credibility to think of. They have their legacy to think of.  After seeing the accolades bestowed on RBG after her death, none of these judges will want to be remembered best for having overturned an election.
You assume that the judges are thinking that 1) their decisions need to be popular, and 2) even if they think they want to do the 'popular' thing, they may still mistake what Trump wants as what "the nation" wants.
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Maybe I'm naive, maybe I am underestimating the amount of legal hijinks the Republicans might be willing to attempt, but I don't think they will.
Well, so far in this election we have seen the republicans:
- Install a bunch of fake ballot boxes in California (they were told to remove them, they said 'nah')
- Eliminate a bunch of drop-off sites for mail in ballots on Texas
- Royally screw-up the postal office

Don't put anything past the republicans.

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Remember, they didn't want Trump in the first place, and this is their chance to be rid of him.
They had a chance during the impeachment. Could have replaced Stubby McBonespurs with Racist Bannon (i.e. Mike Pence). Would have been like the Republicans standing up to Nixon. Sure, they might have lost some of the MAGAchuds who were hard-core Trump supporters (and it might have cost them the 2020 election), but they would have been in a better position to see a rebound.

Yet instead of attempting to remove Trump, they decided to tie themselves even more to him.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6396 on: October 26, 2020, 12:19:05 am »
on the campaign trail today, Trumpy signs a flesh-coloured pumpkin!

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6397 on: October 26, 2020, 07:28:03 am »
I'd be wearing a mask if I was that Pumpkin.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6398 on: October 26, 2020, 08:27:56 am »
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6399 on: October 26, 2020, 10:07:49 am »
the farce that continues over a claimed IRS audit has stopped Trump from releasing his taxes... even though many tax experts have stated an actual audit of taxes shouldn't preclude anyone from releasing past years taxes.
Side note: It is true... trump lied when he said he couldn't release taxes when under audit.

But, from what I understand, the audit may be very real. The problem is that there was a year where trump (thanks to his habit of losing money) claimed a very big rebate one year (over $70 million). When there are rebates of that size, congress gets involved, and the committee that does the auditing has let it lag.

https://www.accountingtoday.com/articles/trumps-73m-tax-refund-stuck-with-little-known-panel

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What's he hiding, hey! Trump is said to owe ~$420 million dollars to... to who? To who/what is Trump beholding to for that money? Trump is said to have $900 million in loans coming due in the upcoming years... loans from who? I suggest your claimed statement about a lack of Trump corruption is on par with your claimed statement that, as you said, "Trump was a successful businessman"!  ;D You should have stated Trump was a most successful ConMan!
(List of Trump's Bankruptcies, business failures, and frauds snipped for length)[/img]
You are forgetting the most significant one: The Trump foundation.

The Trump foundation was supposedly a charity that had a reputation for using its funds in a less than ethical manner... buying paintings of Trump (which were displayed at his properties), using it to bribe politicians, and advancing Trump's business interests. As a result, the courts ended the Trump foundation, and Trump and his hell-spawn are restricted in their ability to participate in charities in the future. (It isn't  total ban, but there are some pretty strict limitations.)

So just think... the position of president (a position that in theory should have a goal of improving the lives of its citizens, and to a lesser extent the lives of people outside its borders) is currently held by an individual that the courts have decided cannot run an organization that is dedicated to helping people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Trump_Foundation#Legal_and_ethical_controversies
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/oct/24/facebook-posts/trump-family-disallowed-operating-charities-new-yo/
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6400 on: October 26, 2020, 11:57:07 pm »
Trump attempts to appeal to his base, most of which I suspect are about kindergarten IQ level, by mocking Kamala's name during a rally. How low can these mo'fo's go i wonder? Next week will likely draw out the childishness as trump continues to fall in the polls and election day looms.

https://www.msnbc.com/11th-hour/watch/trump-mocks-kamala-harris-s-name-says-nobody-likes-her-91289669763#:~:text=Trump%20mocks%20Kamala%20Harris%27s%20name%2C%20says%20%27nobody%20likes,Alexi%20McCammond%20of%20Axios%20reacts.%20Sept.%208%2C%202020

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6402 on: October 28, 2020, 12:07:26 am »
Lesley Stahl is now under 24 hour guard:

https://www.tmz.com/2020/10/27/lesley-stahl-death-threat-trump-60-minutes-interview/

Of course.  The Mango Mussolini has many Blackshirts who would purge the Fatherland of those who will not swear allegiance to Il Douche.

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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #6403 on: October 28, 2020, 01:07:00 am »
Trump campaign now pulling their advertising money out of Florida and spending their remaining money in Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

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« Reply #6404 on: October 28, 2020, 08:28:46 am »
Well, at least on the bright side they didn't catch Covid...

From: https://www.newsweek.com/omaha-trump-rally-attendees-stranded-several-taken-hospital-suffering-hypothermia-1542741
Backers of President Donald Trump were left stranded overnight, with several taken to hospital for hypothermia after an Omaha campaign rally ended in chaos. Hundreds were bussed in to the Eppley Airfield site, leaving their cars in parking lots, but were left wandering up to four miles in the cold after coaches failed to pick them up.

Ah, I love the smell of schadenfreude in the morning.


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