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Offline waldo

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« Reply #6240 on: October 09, 2020, 11:53:12 am »
oh my! Fox News announced its resident medical expert, Dr. Marc Siegel, "will, tonight, conduct a televised medical evaluation and interview" of Trump! ... the same "expert" who has repeatedly pushed the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure in Fox News interviews, and in March falsely claimed the disease was no worse than the common flu.

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« Reply #6241 on: October 09, 2020, 11:55:22 am »
oh my! Fox News announced its resident medical expert, Dr. Marc Siegel, "will, tonight, conduct a televised medical evaluation and interview" of Trump! ... the same "expert" who has repeatedly pushed the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure in Fox News interviews, and in March falsely claimed the disease was no worse than the common flu.

If the circus isn't working, then parade out the lead clowns...

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« Reply #6242 on: October 09, 2020, 11:58:58 am »
oh my! Fox News announced its resident medical expert, Dr. Marc Siegel, "will, tonight, conduct a televised medical evaluation and interview" of Trump! ... the same "expert" who has repeatedly pushed the unproven drug hydroxychloroquine as a COVID-19 cure in Fox News interviews, and in March falsely claimed the disease was no worse than the common flu.

update from the waldo's crack research team: the exam/interview will be conducted remotely. Wait... so Trump will do this virtual promo, but won't do a virtual debate with Biden!

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« Reply #6243 on: October 09, 2020, 12:24:27 pm »
Is it dumber than a live televised medical exam of the president ?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-will-undergo-televised-medical-evaluation-on-friday-night-fox-news-announces

 ??? ??? ???

I'm thinking this is fake...

It definitely should be fake. I'm with you on that.
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« Reply #6244 on: October 09, 2020, 01:07:35 pm »
I am so sick of donald trump and I hope the American voters will concur and throw the asshole out of office, lest they continue to be the laughing stock around most of the world.
Trump as it seems to be so easily forgotten or overlooked is a symptom of a deeply rooted malaise, he is not the cause. It's probably unrealistic to assume America will just turn around with the removal of Donald Trump from office.  Inertia alone is enough to maintain America's headlong plunge down the same direction it's been heading for decades and the slope is so heavily loaded with other 8-balls they act like marbles under foot. 

There was a brief moment following the 2nd WW when the beacon burned as brightly as it ever has but then there seems to have been a backlash against a dilution of American exceptionalism and manifest destiny as evidenced by its reaction to civil rights, minority rights and democratic rights, especially those of people in other countries. Donald Trump is merely a reflection of the bullying self-absorbed narcissistic nation he leads and whose dysfunction is now so evident there is nowhere to turn.   Laughing at a cornered desperate narcissist that's nuclear armed seems a reckless course but maybe its like laughing in the face of danger when the time to change course has likely passed.
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« Reply #6245 on: October 09, 2020, 01:20:02 pm »
Seems like a dumb move, imo.  Even if it were successful, all the republicans who've had enough of Trump would probably have no problem supporting Pence.  And if it doesn't work, just another reason for people who think Trump has had a raw deal from Democrats will just double down on their support, even if they were wavering.

Trump should get voted out, not 'removed' by some other means.
Unfortunately that vote will need to be too obviously overwhelming to ignore.  Unless its Trump of course, winning by 49. whatever % of the vote just isn't going to cut it and I wonder if even a Dem victory by 60% would make a dent.

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« Reply #6246 on: October 09, 2020, 01:49:35 pm »
Trump as it seems to be so easily forgotten or overlooked is a symptom of a deeply rooted malaise, he is not the cause. It's probably unrealistic to assume America will just turn around with the removal of Donald Trump from office.  Inertia alone is enough to maintain America's headlong plunge down the same direction it's been heading for decades and the slope is so heavily loaded with other 8-balls they act like marbles under foot. 

There was a brief moment following the 2nd WW when the beacon burned as brightly as it ever has but then there seems to have been a backlash against a dilution of American exceptionalism and manifest destiny as evidenced by its reaction to civil rights, minority rights and democratic rights, especially those of people in other countries. Donald Trump is merely a reflection of the bullying self-absorbed narcissistic nation he leads and whose dysfunction is now so evident there is nowhere to turn.   Laughing at a cornered desperate narcissist that's nuclear armed seems a reckless course but maybe its like laughing in the face of danger when the time to change course has likely passed.

There was no such moment.  There was a moment for working class white people perhaps, but only for a generation or so.  The shining moment is coming.  When you think about how easy it would be: the younger generation have been ripped off by trickle down for 40 years.  Once the benefactors die off (over the next ten years) it would be easy as a dog shaking off excess water.

Hard left turn ahead...

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« Reply #6247 on: October 09, 2020, 03:12:47 pm »
Trump plans a public event tomorrow at the WH, and he's going to ignore he's a health hazard. All I have to say is if you're stupid enough to attend, then you're probably stupid enough the world would be better off without you. So enjoy your dinner, and breath deep.

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« Reply #6248 on: October 09, 2020, 03:16:01 pm »
Trump as it seems to be so easily forgotten or overlooked is a symptom of a deeply rooted malaise, he is not the cause. It's probably unrealistic to assume America will just turn around with the removal of Donald Trump from office. 

I think you've nailed it right on with that which I've quoted. But  I think there are two factors that have become important to consider becuae of Trump.

1. the malise has been deepened to the extreme with Trump and that will prompt a reaction to turn the other way. Not an equal and opposite reaction but significant nonetheless.

2. The American people are ready to stand up for their piece of the pie. They won't get that from Biden or the establishment Dem party to their liking and so thie efforts will continue, being backed by a faction within the Dem party that isn't establishment oriented. And then there's Bernie's promise of exactly that which the American people really and truly desire. Bernie has promised to make a big noise if Biden doesn't deliver. Bernie and his agenda of social reform could become more powerful than the president and his title. He could force Biden to become a socially responsible president.

Those are the reasons why America might be saved and a bright future is on the horizon.
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« Reply #6249 on: October 09, 2020, 03:27:43 pm »
I think you've nailed it right on with that which I've quoted. But  I think there are two factors that have become important to consider becuae of Trump.

1. the malise has been deepened to the extreme with Trump and that will prompt a reaction to turn the other way. Not an equal and opposite reaction but significant nonetheless.

2. The American people are ready to stand up for their piece of the pie. They won't get that from Biden or the establishment Dem party to their liking and so thie efforts will continue, being backed by a faction within the Dem party that isn't establishment oriented. And then there's Bernie's promise of exactly that which the American people really and truly desire. Bernie has promised to make a big noise if Biden doesn't deliver. Bernie and his agenda of social reform could become more powerful than the president and his title. He could force Biden to become a socially responsible president.

Those are the reasons why America might be saved and a bright future is on the horizon.

Biden has already demonstrated socisal responsibility. Trump has not. Next question?

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« Reply #6250 on: October 09, 2020, 07:13:22 pm »
Is it dumber than a live televised medical exam of the president ?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-will-undergo-televised-medical-evaluation-on-friday-night-fox-news-announces

 ??? ??? ???

I'm thinking this is fake...

Not fake...  Trump thinks this is a great idea...

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-medical-test-fox-news-doctor-tucker-carlson-2020-10?amp

Should make for riveting TV!!


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« Reply #6251 on: October 10, 2020, 12:06:28 am »
I wonder how many deaths will result from tomorrows get together. Of course I hope none. I wonder how many of the 2k will wear masks.

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« Reply #6252 on: October 10, 2020, 02:42:15 am »
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Pelosi is trying to use their 25th. amendment to remove Trump from office because of him being umfit mentally. It's a ploy being used for the purpose of the election, even though it would be quite legitimate.
Seems like a dumb move, imo.  Even if it were successful, all the republicans who've had enough of Trump would probably have no problem supporting Pence.
In my opinion, its hard to say whether it is a good or bad move.

(At this point, i don't think they are actually suggesting he be removed immediately, only that they set up a committee to examine whether Trump is incapacitated.)

There are a couple of good things that could result from this;

- If (after everything is said and done) a committee is set up, trump is deemed incompetent, and removed, and Pence becomes president: it removes an immediate threat to democracy and stability. (Even though Pence lacks integrity, he isn't as unhinged as Trump. Plus, he doesn't have the same con-artist/charisma that Trump does. And any republicans who went along with it would be targeted by the MAGAchuds, which would see the republican party divided and attacking itself. (I think the chance of this happening is extremely remote however, because of republican tribalism)

- If they fail to remove Trump (the most likely scenario), at least they have kept attention focused on Trump's rather unhinged behavior (instead of whatever attacks he is making against the democrats). Plus, it helps re-enforce to voters that the republican party is a bunch of Trump boot-lickers (at least the ones that would block the actions to have Trump removed, which would probably be all of them.)
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And if it doesn't work, just another reason for people who think Trump has had a raw deal from Democrats will just double down on their support, even if they were wavering.
That is a possibility. But my assumption is that anyone who is dumb enough to think Trump has had a 'raw deal' is probably a MAGAchud who was going to vote for Trump anyways.
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« Reply #6253 on: October 10, 2020, 11:03:38 am »
I wonder how many deaths will result from tomorrows get together. Of course I hope none. I wonder how many of the 2k will wear masks.

about that planned TrumpMAGA rally Monday in Florida:


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« Reply #6254 on: October 10, 2020, 11:06:14 am »
Biden has already demonstrated socisal responsibility. Trump has not. Next question?

No doubt Biden is a better choice but he won't be the 'fix' that's needed for America. So even if Trump is defeated and eliminated, their country won't change much for the long-suffering people. And then why would anybody think that the rabid right element will stop their mission to kill black people.

Biden represents the establishment American way and anybody who listens to him should know. But the positive side of a Biden win is in Bernie working from within the party to change it to become a socially responsible party for the people.

Biden's popularity is not huge and if it was then Trump's support should be much lower than it still is.

Do we as Canadians really care? The negatives of Trump are mostly in their domestic policy. Trump could prove to be better for Canada because he won't honour any promises to his people when trade relations and profiting for the very wealthy class are his real priorities. He would be better for Canada than Biden and almost certainly better for China.
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