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« Reply #5790 on: May 24, 2020, 04:42:34 pm »
That and the concentration camps.  And the fact that China is a disgusting autocracy and the US is a democracy.
That too, however the US does have the largest prison population and incarceration rate in the world.
Whether the US will remain a democracy is a bit questionable at the moment with the all the attempts at voter suppression.
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« Reply #5791 on: May 24, 2020, 04:52:59 pm »
That too, however the US does have the largest prison population and incarceration rate in the world.
Whether the US will remain a democracy is a bit questionable at the moment with the all the attempts at voter suppression.

I might be an incorrigible optimist, but I think the current political situation in the US is just a distressing canker on its timeline.  Forgotten in a few years, as the main talking points on the merits of a president become who was the best ever, and who was the second worst ever.

I do hope religious nutjobs don't make a liar out of me.
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« Reply #5792 on: May 24, 2020, 07:53:13 pm »
I might be an incorrigible optimist, but I think the current political situation in the US is just a distressing canker on its timeline.  Forgotten in a few years, as the main talking points on the merits of a president become who was the best ever, and who was the second worst ever.

I do hope religious nutjobs don't make a liar out of me.

I suspect you will be right but it's shocking we would be even thinking these things about a country with such a constitution and system of checks and balances.
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« Reply #5793 on: May 24, 2020, 11:45:26 pm »
I suspect you will be right but it's shocking we would be even thinking these things about a country with such a constitution and system of checks and balances.

It’s too easy to get around these “checks and balances” in their system when you have judges that are appointed by the same dirtbags who’ve rigged the system in their favour. 

Plus, they don’t have any independent oversight on their elections, which makes them vulnerable to partisan tampering.

Put these together and you don’t have a system that is robust enough to withstand what is going on down there now...
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #5795 on: May 26, 2020, 10:24:27 am »
A lot of people including many who think they are less retarded than Trump may be just as retarded or morec retarded. It's a subjective term and so necessarily unreliable based on thelack of objective  methodology used at arriving at the conclusion of retardation. You would have to be retarded not to understand that.

Sorry my response was retarded by events preventing me from
responding earlier.

However from the content on the board it seems retardation is not specific to me.

Have a wonderful day lacking in retardation.

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« Reply #5796 on: May 26, 2020, 06:48:37 pm »
a start - babySteps! --- In a first, Twitter adds fact-check warnings to Trump tweets


image showing added fact-checking links... and linked "fact checking":




baited breath awaiting the shitGibbon's response!
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« Reply #5797 on: May 26, 2020, 08:54:50 pm »
baited breath awaiting the shitGibbon's response!

and it didn't take long!



of course, long-standing conjecture about Trump purchasing OANN (One America News Network) to form the basis for his own TrumpTV... even 'rumblings' about starting up his own social-network platform to compete with Twitter/Facebook et al. Make it so oh mighty badOrangeMan, make it so!
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« Reply #5798 on: May 26, 2020, 10:30:31 pm »
and it didn't take long!



of course, long-standing conjecture about Trump purchasing OANN (One America News Network) to form the basis for his own TrumpTV... even 'rumblings' about starting up his own social-network platform to compete with Twitter/Facebook et al. Make it so oh mighty badOrangeMan, make it so!

Twitter is a private platform...  hence, they can stifle whatever BS speech they wish.

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« Reply #5799 on: May 27, 2020, 11:22:49 am »
of course this is yet another home-grown Trump distraction --- and his base has taken up the charge against claimed twitter censorship of dearLeader!

one of the milder/est responses comes from Trump's 2020 campaign manager - in keeping with the lyin' theme, claiming they pulled advertising from twitter... even though twitter announced an intent to ban political advertising last fall!


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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #5800 on: May 27, 2020, 12:12:50 pm »




First off many if laws in the U.S. are passed by states not he federal government and so using the prison incarceration rates in a discussion about Trump is off topic but hey why let that stop Waldo because hey let's infer Trump is responsible for crime in the US and the amount of people arrested in the US. Its his fault.

Next If one goes to the internet to get statistics to pose as an expert on criminology they will most certainly find numerous sites listing the US as having the highest prison rate per capita in the world per 100,000 people and a total of anywhere from 2.2 to 2.4 million prisoners.

The problem with such comparisons is that:

1-there is not a quantitative measure of how the United States ranks in incarceration rates compared to countries with comparable criminal justice systems
2-such comparisons do NOT look at  other indicators not measured in the Rule of Law index used to come up with these numbers, such as penal policies, prison conditions, and use of fines and other sanctions;
3-the comparisons won’t reflect number of persons arrested who are killed and show do not show up on the incarceration list;
4-the number won’t show the number who are not incarcerated because there are no prisons to put them in;
5-the numbers do not take into account prisoners detained for pre-trial detention or administrative detention which many countries use to keep people detained indefinitely;
6-the numbers do not account for deaths in the jails by torture and disease;
7-the statisics from countries like North Korea are unknown and can not be relied on to be accurate from countries like China, Russia, Iran and other totalitarian states who for political reasons hide their political prisoner numbers;
8-the people arriving at the statistics rely on evidence from the countries that therefore may be self-serving and inaccurate.

That said I would expose Waldo to go off topic and pose as criminology expert and use statistics to prop his political biases and in particular anti-US, anti-Trump beliefs..

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« Reply #5801 on: May 27, 2020, 01:21:33 pm »
Banning all political ads from Twitter is the right move, especially during an election season.  Facebook should do it too.
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« Reply #5802 on: May 27, 2020, 01:33:45 pm »
...come help me that bad man is back and he's supporting Shady! Help! Help!

good on ya! You being the front-man for member Shady is, quite obviously to you, such a rewarding task!

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« Reply #5803 on: May 27, 2020, 01:44:12 pm »
First off many if laws in the U.S. are passed by states not he federal government and so using the prison incarceration rates in a discussion about Trump is off topic but hey why let that stop Waldo because hey let's infer Trump is responsible for crime in the US and the amount of people arrested in the US. Its his fault.

poking the bear is one thing; however, if you want the bear to engage you need to add perspective... as in whatTheHey are you on about here? Was it something I said?  ;D

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« Reply #5804 on: May 27, 2020, 04:34:16 pm »



First off many if laws in the U.S. are passed by states not he federal government and so using the prison incarceration rates in a discussion about Trump is off topic but hey why let that stop Waldo because hey let's infer Trump is responsible for crime in the US and the amount of people arrested in the US. Its his fault.

Next If one goes to the internet to get statistics to pose as an expert on criminology they will most certainly find numerous sites listing the US as having the highest prison rate per capita in the world per 100,000 people and a total of anywhere from 2.2 to 2.4 million prisoners.

The problem with such comparisons is that:

1-there is not a quantitative measure of how the United States ranks in incarceration rates compared to countries with comparable criminal justice systems
2-such comparisons do NOT look at  other indicators not measured in the Rule of Law index used to come up with these numbers, such as penal policies, prison conditions, and use of fines and other sanctions;
3-the comparisons won’t reflect number of persons arrested who are killed and show do not show up on the incarceration list;
4-the number won’t show the number who are not incarcerated because there are no prisons to put them in;
5-the numbers do not take into account prisoners detained for pre-trial detention or administrative detention which many countries use to keep people detained indefinitely;
6-the numbers do not account for deaths in the jails by torture and disease;
7-the statisics from countries like North Korea are unknown and can not be relied on to be accurate from countries like China, Russia, Iran and other totalitarian states who for political reasons hide their political prisoner numbers;
8-the people arriving at the statistics rely on evidence from the countries that therefore may be self-serving and inaccurate.

That said I would expose Waldo to go off topic and pose as criminology expert and use statistics to prop his political biases and in particular anti-US, anti-Trump beliefs..

Omni help! Omni come help me that bad man is back and he's supporting Shady! Help! Help!

The crimes trump is most responsible for are the ones he commits. Apparently you do need some help.