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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2017, 05:11:01 pm »
Yay, quote function works.

CNN International and BBC World Service are different animals from their domestic kin. If people see their reporting and it is backed up by their own and other media sources, Trump can scream fake all he wants but the rest of the world won't be buying it. They don't have to be biased, all they need are facts.

The problem being that trump simply doesn't care what foreigners have to say or think.  The USA has been playing nice for quite some time and a lot of people are in for a rude awakening.

Trump doesn't care if the things he puts out are fake.  If he keeps getting the media and the left to keep taking the bait, he makes the media and left look like people who aren't to be taken seriously. 

It's too bad that trump is such a meddler in the free market as otherwise it's nice to have the media and extreme leftisits start eating crow.

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« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2017, 05:21:13 pm »
The problem being that trump simply doesn't care what foreigners have to say or think.  The USA has been playing nice for quite some time and a lot of people are in for a rude awakening.

Trump doesn't care if the things he puts out are fake.  If he keeps getting the media and the left to keep taking the bait, he makes the media and left look like people who aren't to be taken seriously. 

It's too bad that trump is such a meddler in the free market as otherwise it's nice to have the media and extreme leftisits start eating crow.

If you live in a bubble and only watch FOX news, you would be quite correct. Trump may not care what the rest of the world thinks but the US is continually asking for support to legitimize its foreign adventures. Expect that support to dry up. His insulting the Australian PM is a good example. Australia has supported the US in every conflict since WW2, it had boots on the ground in Viet Nam and both Gulf wars. It still has troops in Afghanistan and is the US's biggest supporter against ISIL in the Middle East. What do they get but their head of government being trashed by Trump over a deal a US government made. "Make America Great" will become, "Make America Alone". All because of one single narcissist.
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« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2017, 05:50:35 pm »
If you live in a bubble and only watch FOX news, you would be quite correct. Trump may not care what the rest of the world thinks but the US is continually asking for support to legitimize its foreign adventures. Expect that support to dry up. His insulting the Australian PM is a good example. Australia has supported the US in every conflict since WW2, it had boots on the ground in Viet Nam and both Gulf wars. It still has troops in Afghanistan and is the US's biggest supporter against ISIL in the Middle East. What do they get but their head of government being trashed by Trump over a deal a US government made. "Make America Great" will become, "Make America Alone". All because of one single narcissist.

The last president was a narcissist too which makes trump replacing him all the more ironic.

Obama was also quite successful at pissing off his allies as well.  Obama didn't care and trump doesn't either.  Trump is wanting to show the American voters he is acting in their interests and not of foreign leaders.

The Americans wanted trump and they decided that they are willing to put up with his schtick if he gets their economy going.

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« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2017, 07:38:30 pm »
The last president was a narcissist too which makes trump replacing him all the more ironic.

Obama was also quite successful at pissing off his allies as well.  Obama didn't care and trump doesn't either.  Trump is wanting to show the American voters he is acting in their interests and not of foreign leaders.

The Americans wanted trump and they decided that they are willing to put up with his schtick if he gets their economy going.

A certain degree of narcissism is probably present in most leaders but comparing Obama to Trump as a narcissist is ridiculous. Name one box that Trump doesn't tick. The only thing I would question is bragging. There is nothing subtle about Trump's bragging.

Traits and signs of narcissism.


An obvious self-focus in interpersonal exchanges
Problems in sustaining satisfying relationships
A lack of psychological awareness (see insight in psychology and psychiatry, egosyntonic)
Difficulty with empathy
Problems distinguishing the self from others (see narcissism and boundaries)
Hypersensitivity to any insults or imagined insults (see criticism and narcissists, narcissistic rage and narcissistic injury)
Vulnerability to shame rather than guilt
Haughty body language
Flattery towards people who admire and affirm them (narcissistic supply)
Detesting those who do not admire them (narcissistic abuse)
Using other people without considering the cost of doing so
Pretending to be more important than they actually are
Bragging (subtly but persistently) and exaggerating their achievements
Claiming to be an "expert" at many things
Inability to view the world from the perspective of other people
Denial of remorse and gratitude
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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2017, 07:40:23 pm »
It's all part of Trump's plan. 

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« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2017, 09:15:07 pm »
The last president was a narcissist too which makes trump replacing him all the more ironic.

Obama was also quite successful at pissing off his allies as well.  Obama didn't care and trump doesn't either. 
That's like a terrible regurgitation of the "two equally terrible candidates" meme of the election. It was BS then too.

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« Reply #51 on: February 04, 2017, 10:14:50 pm »
That's like a terrible regurgitation of the "two equally terrible candidates" meme of the election. It was BS then too.

Lol that's not my problem the Americans are having trouble nominating candidates for president.  I was a walker and Rubio guy.

At least bill Clinton knew enough to work with congress.

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« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2017, 10:56:44 am »
Lol that's not my problem the Americans are having trouble nominating candidates for president.  I was a walker and Rubio guy.

At least bill Clinton knew enough to work with congress.
I wouldn't say they're having trouble. The people with the money and power are giving the peons a "choice" between their lapdogs. So they're not having trouble at all; it's the rest of America that's in trouble.
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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2017, 01:35:38 pm »
David Axelrod wondering if the Churchill bust in the Oval office has demanded to be removed upon learning of Trump's likening US practices to Russian practices, has to be the tweet of the morning.

Nevermind this bizarro world where even the VP is unwilling to clearly state that the US is morally superior to Russia: https://twitter.com/ryanlizza/status/828293834253688832

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« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2017, 10:34:13 pm »
The last president was a narcissist too which makes trump replacing him all the more ironic.

Obama was also quite successful at pissing off his allies as well.  Obama didn't care and trump doesn't either.  Trump is wanting to show the American voters he is acting in their interests and not of foreign leaders.

The Americans wanted trump and they decided that they are willing to put up with his schtick if he gets their economy going.

Obama couldn't hold a candle to Trump in terms of narcissism. Just ake a quick look back at the debates and you will see what I mean. And cozying up to Putin tends to counter your comment on foreign leaders. And tax cuts to the wealthy combined with huge spending plans, well, we'll see what effect that has on the economy. 

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« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2017, 02:16:10 pm »
Any bad polls are fake news.  Any good polls are obviously not fake news.

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« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2017, 02:34:38 pm »
Obama couldn't hold a candle to Trump in terms of narcissism. Just ake a quick look back at the debates and you will see what I mean. And cozying up to Putin tends to counter your comment on foreign leaders. And tax cuts to the wealthy combined with huge spending plans, well, we'll see what effect that has on the economy.

Obama is narcissistic as is trump.  Full stop.

Trump is promising tax cuts across the board and looking at Ireland tax cuts seem to be working.

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« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2017, 02:45:07 pm »
Some of you have probably seen this Mencken quote from 1920, so has the land finally reached its hearts desire?

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“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

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« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2017, 03:05:49 pm »
Now the media are not reporting terrorist attacks for "their own reasons."

Yes, it has come to this: if they are not fortunate enough to have a terrorist attack occur so they can justify policy then they will lie about them (Bowling Green Massacre) or tell lies about the media suppressing them.

Wilber is right that the morons have won.

Maybe we should hope so because the next step would be to have a black ops terrorist attack since the real terrorists and media are not cooperating with the state thus far (well, Fox and Breitbart are playing ball).
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« Reply #59 on: February 06, 2017, 03:57:04 pm »
Now the media are not reporting terrorist attacks for "their own reasons."

Yes, it has come to this: if they are not fortunate enough to have a terrorist attack occur so they can justify policy then they will lie about them (Bowling Green Massacre) or tell lies about the media suppressing them.

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It's awful convenient for the 'We're in great danger!' people.  Even if you never hear about terrorist attacks know that they are happening all the time anyways!   Apparently it is unconstitutional or something for the state mention all these terror attacks once the MSM decree's they shall not be reported.  Even courts can't mention them it seems. Why the terrorists are running rampant and the poor helpless President can't do a thing about all that terrorist-stuff happening right now.  He tried the feeble ExOrder that would stop terrorists from flowing in for 90/120 days - which did nothing for all the terroristing that we don't hear about anymore - and a mere judge pulled the rug out from under that! Powerful man, that Prez.
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