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« Reply #1695 on: March 14, 2018, 12:29:42 am »
Well it appears PA. has elected a Democrat to congress.

I thought absentee ballots were till pending, and theoretically could tip the scales even if unlikely. The results are close enough that I am sure we will be hearing screams for recounts.

Regardless, this is still 20 points lower for the Republicans than in 2016 so obviously they will be in trouble in the mid-terms.

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« Reply #1696 on: March 14, 2018, 12:48:44 am »
I thought absentee ballots were till pending, and theoretically could tip the scales even if unlikely. The results are close enough that I am sure we will be hearing screams for recounts.

Regardless, this is still 20 points lower for the Republicans than in 2016 so obviously they will be in trouble in the mid-terms.

Yes from what I understand absentee ballots could tip it but unlikely to do so due to the districts involved tend to be Lamb supporters. Although I've currently had a couple of beers and all the maps and stats are more complicated than I want to folow just now. Lamb has made a speech were he claims victory so he seems confident. I guess whichever the final count goes Trump is hoping it might take "Stormy" off the headlines. You know, in case firing Tillerson doesn't.

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« Reply #1697 on: March 14, 2018, 09:58:11 am »
Well it appears PA. has elected a Democrat to congress. It will be interesting to see how Trump tries to 'splain that since he stumped for the historically favored GOP candidate.

Did he? He went over there and gave a speech but he only talked about himself. Trump stumps for Trump. Nobody else matters.
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« Reply #1698 on: March 14, 2018, 05:24:39 pm »
Latest rumour is that the Donald is going to replace the secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs with....
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wait for it ....
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Pete Hegseth of Fox & Friends

It hasn't happened yet, so maybe it is a bad joke, but I wouldn't put it past him.

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« Reply #1699 on: March 14, 2018, 05:29:31 pm »
Sean Hannity

2008: "willingness to meet with North Korea is one of the most disturbing displays of Obama’s lack of foreign policy experience."

2018: "willingness to meet with North Korea is a huge foreign policy win."


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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #1700 on: March 14, 2018, 06:31:56 pm »
Latest rumour is that the Donald is going to replace the secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs with....
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wait for it ....
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Pete Hegseth of Fox & Friends

It hasn't happened yet, so maybe it is a bad joke, but I wouldn't put it past him.

Nobody cares about that. The important rumor is replacing HR McMcaster with that idiot John Bolger as his national security advisor.
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« Reply #1701 on: March 14, 2018, 07:01:02 pm »
Nobody cares about that. The important rumor is replacing HR McMcaster with that idiot John Bolger as his national security advisor.

Nobody cares about that. Replacing Tillerson with the idiot Pompeo is what's really scary and then it looks like Sessions might be next. Not that I'm a big fan of Sessions, but Trump calling him "Mr. Magoo" because he sensibly chose to recuse himself points out what a dolt Trump is.

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« Reply #1702 on: March 15, 2018, 11:20:05 am »
Nobody cares about that. Replacing Tillerson with the idiot Pompeo is what's really scary and then it looks like Sessions might be next. Not that I'm a big fan of Sessions, but Trump calling him "Mr. Magoo" because he sensibly chose to recuse himself points out what a dolt Trump is.

Replacing Tillerson with Pompeo is important as it signals a more hard line approach to dealing with foreign states. Replacing McMaster with Bolger doubles down on that, and if Kelly goes too, as rumors suggest, that will basically mean everyone who acts as a brake on Trump's imbecilic foreign policy beliefs and desires will be gone.

But the clown in Veterans Affairs just doesn't matter any more than that idiot in Education.
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« Reply #1703 on: March 15, 2018, 11:28:59 am »
Nobody cares about that. The important rumor is replacing HR McMcaster with that idiot John Bolger as his national security advisor.

waldo correction: Bolton, not Bolger... Bolton; aka pornstache!

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« Reply #1704 on: March 16, 2018, 01:26:03 am »
waldo correction: Bolton, not Bolger... Bolton; aka pornstache!

It's not even a ****-stache. It's a Wilford Brimley.  John Bolton looks like Wilfred Brimley's brother from back in Bumblefuck Missourah.



There are some who believe that McMaster, Kelly, and Mattis have been working as a tag-team to baby-sit Trump and keep him from blowing up the world or something equally stupid. This has been dubbed the "Three Generals And A Baby" theory.  Now McMaster is gone, and Kelly may soon be out as well. 

Losing this behind-the-scenes stability may bode well for people who want to see Trump implode quickly... but I am worried about what might happen without anybody there to keep the big orange toddler in line.


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Re: The Donald Trump Thread
« Reply #1705 on: March 17, 2018, 11:00:43 am »
Nobody cares about that. Replacing Tillerson with the idiot Pompeo is what's really scary and then it looks like Sessions might be next. Not that I'm a big fan of Sessions, but Trump calling him "Mr. Magoo" because he sensibly chose to recuse himself points out what a dolt Trump is.

Hang on. Bolger is as dangerous as Pompeo for the very same reasons. They both belief in first strike and in taking out North Korea. That's what is worrisome if for no other reason he's probably appointing both days before an alleged meeting with the fat boy in Sweden?

You see how many National Security advisors Trump has fired, like 5. Tillerson now? Before that his economic advisor?  Trump is a  lunatic. He is truly a national security risk. You don't turn over that many advisors unless you have serious behavioural disorders.

What is wierd is Putin is out of control. He brazenly shoots off his missiles posturing for his fixed election at home. He brazenly for the second time poisons someone in Britain. He announces to the world the US no longer matters and is no longer a world power....and Trump? Have you heard Trump say one word about Putin? Clearly Putin has dirt on Trump. Lol Melania was always rumoured to be a KGB operative who used her access to industrial secrets as a high class escort to big fat business boys before she landed Donald Duck.   Nothing would surprise me. She probably has photos spanking Donald in a diaper.

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« Reply #1706 on: March 17, 2018, 12:10:58 pm »
I saw a fascinating, well-researched post on Reddit the other day, and I am going to repost it here in its entirety because it is too good not to share. Hopefully this doesn't earn me a ban-hammer for cross-posting... I think all of this is worthy of discussion.  The opinion of a random guy on a message board is something you can take or leave, but something this well-researched and well-sourced deserves some discussion. All credit to "PoppinKREAM", whoever he or she might be:

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/84ofao/mueller_subpoenas_trump_organization_demanding/dvr510x/

President Trump said the red line would be drawn at Special Counsel Mueller looking into the Trump Empire's finances. Why you may ask? The entire family is involved in laundering money. Christopher Steele has stated that Trump's hotel and land deals with Russians need to be examined.[1] Steve Bannon's comments all but confirmed our suspicions that Trump is being investigated for laundering money.[2]

    [Bannon] “You realise where this is going,” he is quoted as saying. “This is all about money laundering. Mueller chose [senior prosecutor Andrew] Weissmann first and he is a money-laundering guy.

We recently found out that Trump's first international venture in Panama City is a hub for laundering money.[3] He handed the business dealings over to Ivanka Trump and although many properties were bought the entire area is almost a ghost town.[4] The tower stands dark as very few people live in the properties. Turns out the owners hail from colourful backgrounds including Russian gangsters, drug cartels, and people smugglers.[5]

Rachel Maddow did a piece about a Trump Tower project in Azerbaijan.[6]

In it Ivanka Trump takes a video promoting her family's building, but it turns out she wasn't filming at the Trump property as it was built in a rundown location.

The Trump organization has been laundering money for a long time. Here are a few examples The New Yorker touches upon including his Taj Mahal Casino, projects in India, Uruguay, Georgia, Indonesia, the Philipines, and China.[7] Listen to this short NPR podcast interview where Adam Davidson explains what he uncovered while investigating Baku.[8]

Today we found out that the President of the United States did business with a sanctioned Russian bank during the 2016 campaign.[9]

In 2017 President Trump tweeted that "I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!"[10]

He lied. Read what Felix Sater, a Russian bussiness associate of the President, offered President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2015. Felix Sater wanted to work with the Russians to help get Trump elected by showcasing Trump's negotiation skills. To do this he wanted to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. The New York Times[11] story is corroborated by the Washington Post.[12] President Trump signed a letter of intent to build the Moscow Trump Tower during the campaign.[13]

    The associate, Felix Sater, wrote a series of emails to Mr. Trump’s lawyer, Michael Cohen, in which he boasted about his ties to Mr. Putin. He predicted that building a Trump Tower in Moscow would highlight Mr. Trump’s savvy negotiating skills and be a political boon to his candidacy.

    “Our boy can become president of the USA and we can engineer it,” Mr. Sater wrote in an email. “I will get all of Putins team to buy in on this, I will manage this process.”

    “I will get Putin on this program and we will get Donald elected,” Mr. Sater wrote.

New information on the relationship between Felix Sater and Trump has come to light recently, including much more money laundering. Rachel Maddow explains how billionaires from Kazakhstan, who are embroiled in court cases involving money laundering, had their money laundered through Trump properties via Felix Sater.[14] There is video/photographic evidence of President Trump promoting a new project in Georgia to build a Trump Tower, but they never did end up building the Trump tower. The project was used to launder money. Felix Sater attended Trump's invite-only victory party to celebrate his presidential victory.[15] In July of 2016 we know he attended a secret meeting at Trump Tower.[16]

Months ago it was reported that Felix Sater was ready and willing to cooperate with Special Counsel Mueller.[17] Paul Wood, World Affairs correspondent for the BBC, wrote the original article for The Spectator.[18] Back in the 90's Felix Sater was caught up in a massive stock scam and flipped on mob families in New York. Guess who flipped him? He's on Special Counsel Mueller's team - Andrew Weissmann.[19]

1) Business Insider - 'Dossier' author Christopher Steele: Trump's hotel and land deals with Russians need to be examined
http://www.businessinsider.com/christopher-steele-trump-hotel-land-deals-russia-dossier-2017-11

2) The Guardian - Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

3) NBC - A Panama tower carries Trump’s name and ties to organized crime
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/panama-tower-carries-trump-s-name-ties-organized-crime-n821706

4) Global Witness - Narco-A-Lago: Money Laundering At The Trump Ocean Club Panama
https://www.globalwitness.org/en-gb/campaigns/corruption-and-money-laundering/narco-a-lago-panama/#chapter-0/section-0

5) The Guardian - Trump's Panama tower used for money laundering by condo owners, reports say
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/17/trump-ocean-club-panama-money-laundering-reports

6) Sketchy Donald Trump Deal Eyed For Ties To Iran | Rachel Maddow | MSNBC
Code: [Select]
https://youtu.be/dy9Qtf3P6Nw
7) The New Yorker - Donald Trump’s Worst Deal: The President helped build a hotel in Azerbaijan that appears to be a corrupt operation engineered by oligarchs tied to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

8) NPR - 'The New Yorker' Uncovers Trump Hotel's Ties To Corrupt Oligarch Family
https://www.npr.org/2017/03/07/519063946/the-new-yorker-uncovers-trump-hotels-ties-to-corrupt-oligarch-family

9) The Guardian - Trump Organization 'negotiated with sanctioned Russian bank in 2016'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/trump-organization-negotiated-with-sanctioned-russian-bank-in-2016

10) Trump January 2017 Tweet
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/819159806489591809?lang=en

11) New York Times - Trump Associate Boasted That Moscow Business Deal ‘Will Get Donald Elected’
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/28/us/politics/trump-tower-putin-felix-sater.html?_r=0

12) The Washington Post - Trump’s company had more contact with Russia during campaign, according to documents turned over to investigators
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-company-had-more-contact-with-russia-during-campaign-according-to-documents-turned-over-to-investigators/2017/10/02/2091fe5e-a6c0-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?utm_term=.f61662df4652

13) ABC News - Trump signed letter of intent for Russian tower during campaign, lawyer says
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-knew-moscow-tower-proposal-campaign-lawyer/story?id=49472342

14) MSNBC Rachel Maddow - Sketchy money finds its way into Trump deals
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/sketchy-kazakh-money-finds-its-way-into-trump-dealings-1137745475847?playlist=associated

15) GQ - Inside Donald Trump's Election Night War Room
https://www.gq.com/story/inside-donald-trumps-election-night-war-room

16) Politico - Trump’s mob-linked ex-associate gives $5,400 to campaign
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/donald-trump-russia-felix-sater-227434

17) Raw Story - Longtime Trump business partner ‘told family he knows he and POTUS are going to prison’: report
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/longtime-trump-business-partner-told-family-he-knows-he-and-potus-are-going-to-prison-report/

18) The Spectator - Forget Charlottesville - Russia Is Still The True Trump's True Scandal
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/08/forget-charlottesville-russia-is-still-the-true-trump-scandal/

19) Slate - An Intriguing Link Between the Mueller Investigation, Trump, and Alleged Money Laundering
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/06/21/felix_sater_donald_trump_robert_mueller_and_andrew_weissmann.html


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« Reply #1707 on: March 17, 2018, 12:23:54 pm »
And Andrew McCabe has been fired. This is clearly another attempt to halt the Mueller probe.

Trump wanted them to make sure McCabe didn't get to keep his pension either. McCabe was fired 26 hours before his retirement.  Remember when Trump had Comey fired, he wanted Comey to have to buy his own plane ticket home. He called up McCabe and demanded to know why the government was flying Comey home.  McCabe said it wasn't his decision, but if it had been his decision, he'd have done the same. Trump said "ask your wife how it feels to be a loser!" and hung up the phone. The guy is just a lowlife.  A playground bully who just never grew up.

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« Reply #1708 on: March 17, 2018, 12:29:30 pm »
I saw a fascinating, well-researched post on Reddit the other day, and I am going to repost it here in its entirety because it is too good not to share.

Is that all you have? Nothing Burger.

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« Reply #1709 on: March 17, 2018, 12:38:22 pm »
Why does the fact he fired this guy less than two days before gets his pension **** me off more than anything else he's done?

He'll probably get his pension anyway, right?