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Supreme Court Abortion Decision (Uncensored)
« on: May 03, 2022, 11:19:50 am »
SCOTUS set to overturn Roe.

The opinion was leaked prior to the decision.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473?_amp=true

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The overturning of Roe would almost immediately lead to stricter limits on abortion access in large swaths of the South and Midwest, with about half of the states set to immediately impose broad abortion bans. Any state could still legally allow the procedure.

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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2022, 11:24:33 am »
All this will do is allow abortion regulation to be decided on a state level.  Whether one supports abortion or not, it's widely accepted that the Roe v Wade decision was significantly legally flawed.

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2022, 11:28:21 am »
All this will do is allow abortion regulation to be decided on a state level.  Whether one supports abortion or not, it's widely accepted that the Roe v Wade decision was significantly legally flawed.

No it wasn’t. Rights are federal whether that’s about bodily autonomy or whom you choose to marry.

The last time this state right vs federal right went head to head it didn’t end well for the suppressors.

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2022, 11:33:01 am »
No it wasn’t. Rights are federal whether that’s about bodily autonomy or whom you choose to marry.

The last time this state right vs federal right went head to head it didn’t end well for the suppressors.
The problem is, that Roe v Wade's decision wasn't based on body autonomy, it was based on privacy.
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2022, 12:10:39 pm »
It's funny to watch the pro-abortion side trending "my body my choice" after two+ years of taking that away from people via vaccines.  Complete and utter ass**** hypocrites with no self awareness at all.
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2022, 12:16:30 pm »
It's funny to watch the pro-abortion side trending "my body my choice" after two+ years of taking that away from people via vaccines.  Complete and utter ass**** hypocrites with no self awareness at all.

It's funny to watch the anti-vaxx side adopt "my body my choice" after decades of trying to take away abortion rights. Complete and utter ass**** hypocrites with no self awareness at all.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2022, 12:30:16 pm »
It's funny to watch the anti-vaxx side adopt "my body my choice" after decades of trying to take away abortion rights. Complete and utter ass**** hypocrites with no self awareness at all.
The problem that I see is that many pro-abortionists rely on 1960s science.  Prenatal science has grown by leaps and bounds.  Take a look at a 3D or 4D ultrasound.  Acknowledging actual science behind a living breathing unborn baby shouldn't be political.  That's why most people don't have a problem with abortion up to a certain point.  However, after a certain point, it's infanticide. 

Regardless, the original Roe v Wade decision had nothing to do with body autonomy and more to do with privacy.  This new decision just corrects this legal flaw.  Abortion will be regulated by states, much like guns are.  Most state's abortion laws won't change at all after this decision. 
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2022, 02:09:24 pm »
The problem that I see is that many pro-abortionists rely on 1960s science.  Prenatal science has grown by leaps and bounds.  Take a look at a 3D or 4D ultrasound.  Acknowledging actual science behind a living breathing unborn baby shouldn't be political. 

Prenatal science has not advanced to the point where it can make a 12-22 week old fetus viable outside the womb. A 3D ultrasound doesn't change anything about that.

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That's why most people don't have a problem with abortion up to a certain point.  However, after a certain point, it's infanticide. 

So a fetus magically becomes a baby...when, exactly?

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Regardless, the original Roe v Wade decision had nothing to do with body autonomy and more to do with privacy.  This new decision just corrects this legal flaw.

What "flaw"?

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Abortion will be regulated by states, much like guns are.  Most state's abortion laws won't change at all after this decision.

And some states (like Texas) have insane anti-abortion laws ready to go as soon as RvW is done and for the women in those states, life is going to get a lot worse.

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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2022, 03:54:16 pm »
Prenatal science has not advanced to the point where it can make a 12-22 week old fetus viable outside the womb. A 3D ultrasound doesn't change anything about that.

So a fetus magically becomes a baby...when, exactly?
Yes it does.  An unborn baby with a beating heart is a living human being.  You, and your ilk, continue to deny science.  viability has nothing to do with it, as even young born children are not so-called "viable" without the care of their parents.

What "flaw"?
That Roe v Wade had NOTHING to do with body autonomy.

And some states (like Texas) have insane anti-abortion laws ready to go as soon as RvW is done and for the women in those states, life is going to get a lot worse.
It depends on one's perspective.  Some people feel that the state's participation in murdering unborn children makes things a lot better.  Furthermore, abortion was never suppose to be meant as a form of birth control.  Various forms of birth control are widely available, and in many cases free.  People need to practice personal responsibility.  Actions have consequences, and I understand that many people, especially Libtards, want a consequence free lifestyle.  Regardless, if some states have limited abortion options, organizations like Planned Parenthood can help facilitate this type of procedure. 
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2022, 04:56:40 pm »
Yes it does. An unborn baby with a beating heart is a living human being.  You, and your ilk, continue to deny science. 

Lol literally not science. There's nothing science-y about the arbitrary definition of human life based on heartbeat vs any other function, such as brain development.

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viability has nothing to do with it, as even young born children are not so-called "viable" without the care of their parents.

Viability is just as valid an arbitrary line as "having a heartbeat".

I'll say this much for the "life begins at conception" whackos: unlike you, their beliefs are consistent and not contradictary.

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That Roe v Wade had NOTHING to do with body autonomy.

So? Privacy and bodily autonomy are interrelated, as the SCOTUS has decided in Griswold v Connecticut, Cruzan v Missouri and Lawrence v Texas.

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It depends on one's perspective.  Some people feel that the state's participation in murdering unborn children makes things a lot better.

"Some people" in this case being people not directly involved with or impacted by a woman's pregnancy whatsoever.

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Furthermore, abortion was never suppose to be meant as a form of birth control.

According to who? That's literally what abortion has always been.

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Various forms of birth control are widely available, and in many cases free.  People need to practice personal responsibility.  Actions have consequences, and I understand that many people, especially Libtards, want a consequence free lifestyle. 

Having an abortion is practicing personal responsibility.

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Regardless, if some states have limited abortion options, organizations like Planned Parenthood can help facilitate this type of procedure.

The guy who cries about gas prices and grocery costs is suddenly pretty sanguine about working class people's ability to afford to travel to seek medical services.
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No one has the right to force you to carry a child you don't want to carry. Just like they don't have the right to force you to take a vaccine.

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Regardless, if some states have limited abortion options, organizations like Planned Parenthood can help facilitate this type of procedure.
The guy who cries about gas prices and grocery costs is suddenly pretty sanguine about working class people's ability to afford to travel to seek medical services.
He's even stupider than you think.

The republicans have been attempting to defund planned parenthood for years (largely over them providing abortion services). Claiming somehow that Planned Parenthood can step in to provide the services shows how ignorant he is of recent political history.

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This is how radical the pro abortion side has become.  This radicalism is what has caused much of the pushback that we’re seeing now.

Bills allowing abortion up until the moment of birth!  Disgusting and EVIL!  Utter scum.
https://twitter.com/courrielche/status/1521363687969214464?s=21&t=BTysYiXmrrICdF6aCMYHag
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This is how radical the pro abortion side has become.  This radicalism is what has caused much of the pushback that we’re seeing now.

Bills allowing abortion up until the moment of birth!  Disgusting and EVIL!  Utter scum.
https://twitter.com/courrielche/status/1521363687969214464?s=21&t=BTysYiXmrrICdF6aCMYHag

What bill? Where is this? When was this? What's the context here? I had to go digging for any of that and it seems this is from three years ago during debate over a Virginia late-term abortion bill.

The bill would have reduced the number of physicians required to approve a third-term abortion (from three to one), and lowered the threshold for that approval to the requirement that there be a medical reason for the abortion, from the previous requirement that the pregnant woman be "substantially and irremediably" harmed by continuing her pregnancy.

Third trimester abortions (after the 24th week of pregnancy) are very rare and are almost exclusively done for medical reasons, but forced birth advocates such as yourself would rather put a woman's life at risk and force them to undergo the trauma of giving birth to a baby who will not survive because you are freaks who despise women.
 

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If allowing a woman with a non-viable pregnancy to get an abortion at 22 weeks is radical and demonic, what would one call keeping a braindead woman alive against her families wishes so the severely deformed fetus inside her can continue to grow? This is the future Republicans want where women are nothing but breeding stock.