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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2020, 07:45:17 pm »
He tried to spend a phony 20 buck bill. The videos are obvious. The knee on the neck is simply an example of how racism continues, especially in the US.
Complete nonsense.  These types of instances are extremely rare.  Actual data shows more while people are killed by police every year.  To know this was racism is to be able to read minds.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2020, 07:46:45 pm »
The videos are incomplete.  Some edited, some redacted.  I haven't seen video of what happened that led to Floyd ending up on the ground.  That said, nothing would justify a knee on the neck.
Most police departments have outlawed such kinds of restraints.  Regardless, using a neck or head to restrain somebody involved in a non violent crime should be prohibited.  Itís just not necessary.
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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 07:54:00 pm »
Most police departments have outlawed such kinds of restraints.  Regardless, using a neck or head to restrain somebody involved in a non violent crime should be prohibited.  Itís just not necessary.

My point is, until we see all the evidence.  All the video, witnesses etc., we won't know everything that happened.  What led to Floyd being on the ground.  Did he resist arrest?  Did a cop throw him to the ground because the cop was having a bad day?  We don't know.

That said, knee to the neck is a terrible way for a cop to restrain someone.
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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2020, 07:57:18 pm »
My point is, until we see all the evidence.  All the video, witnesses etc., we won't know everything that happened.  What led to Floyd being on the ground.  Did he resist arrest?  Did a cop throw him to the ground because the cop was having a bad day?  We don't know.

That said, knee to the neck is a terrible way for a cop to restrain someone.
Thatís true.  We still donít really know what led to Floyd on the ground. 
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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2020, 07:58:41 pm »
Complete nonsense.  These types of instances are extremely rare.  Actual data shows more while people are killed by police every year.  To know this was racism is to be able to read minds.

Try taking a look at the population ratio and if you can understand it get back to us. Give ya a hint, white folks are much less likely to get shot by cops in the US.

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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2020, 08:03:26 pm »
Thatís true.  We still donít really know what led to Floyd on the ground.

The various videos quite clearly show he was in handcuffs, on the ground, unarmed, surrounded by at least 4 armed cops, one in the process of killing him. Are you fucking blind or just plain racist?

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2020, 08:14:57 pm »
The various videos quite clearly show he was in handcuffs, on the ground, unarmed, surrounded by at least 4 armed cops, one in the process of killing him. Are you **** blind or just plain racist?
Iím neither, just interested in actual facts, not illogical feelings.  It seems this forum is full of feelings, but short on facts much of the time.  Has it always been this way here?

New Study Says White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspect

A new peer-reviewed study of fatal police shootings says that white officers are not more likely to shoot and kill minority suspects. Critics contend it doesn't address racial disparities by police.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe

The mainstream media does a disservice to everyone when they sensationalize these types of events.  It leads to violence, and irrational behaviour.
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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2020, 08:17:28 pm »
The various videos quite clearly show he was in handcuffs, on the ground, unarmed, surrounded by at least 4 armed cops, one in the process of killing him. Are you **** blind or just plain racist?
We donít know what led to him being grounded.  I personally donít think it matters, but it could be relevant.
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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2020, 09:20:23 pm »
We donít know what led to him being grounded.  I personally donít think it matters, but it could be relevant.

Yeah passing a phony 20 buck bill could be very relevant to providing a reason for killing a black man. Yep, I'm sure you and trumpy boy see eye to eye. Carry on.

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2020, 12:09:03 am »
Iím neither, just interested in actual facts, not illogical feelings.  It seems this forum is full of feelings, but short on facts much of the time.  Has it always been this way here?

you of all members! Your posturing "facts above feelings" is... beyond the pale! Considering your past history of fronting false tabloid/blog based hooey and conspiracy, of you claiming climate related denier statements and positions as factual, you have zero credibility in now claiming an, as you say, "interest in actual facts"!

considering your heightened refusal to accept peer-review consensus science, it's rather comical that you're now drawing reference to a peer-reviewed study - heeelarious!

New Study Says White Police Officers Are Not More Likely To Shoot Minority Suspect

A new peer-reviewed study of fatal police shootings says that white officers are not more likely to shoot and kill minority suspects. Critics contend it doesn't address racial disparities by police.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/26/745731839/new-study-says-white-police-officers-are-not-more-likely-to-shoot-minority-suspe

by the by, it's a single study; one so relatively new that it has received multiple challenges that necessitated the authors issuing a correction as recent as April 13th, 2020... so recent that additional and/or continued challenges (to the correction) may still yet come forward. The obvious waldo point being: again, it's a single study that, with time, may position to some degree of scientific community acceptance, recognition and overall relevant positioning - may!

but hey now, surely you must recall the waldo highlighting the problem with climate-change deniers, like you, over-hyping a single study - you know, 'SSS' => Single Study Syndrome!  ;D

The mainstream media does a disservice to everyone when they sensationalize these types of events.  It leads to violence, and irrational behaviour.

does this extend to your boy, badOrangeMan - the greatDividerInChief, forever stoking the U.S. racial divide?

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2020, 01:38:10 pm »
Yeah passing a phony 20 buck bill could be very relevant to providing a reason for killing a black man. Yep, I'm sure you and trumpy boy see eye to eye. Carry on.
No it wasnít.  Iíve already said that.  Not everything is about Trump.  You should try it some time.
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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2020, 04:02:06 pm »
I bet there are a lot of members of various police forces across the US who wish they could have their knees on the neck of officer Derek Chauvin after all the grief his murderous actions have caused them to have to deal with as the backlash carries on.

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2020, 07:23:13 pm »
Americans are so proud of their revolutions...    I don't see these riots as being much different than their other revolutions...  if killing unarmed citizens by by government agents isn't tyranny, what is?

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2020, 09:25:50 pm »
So the whole country is "burning" and where is it's "leader" I wonder. Practicing his fiddling as per Nero's handling of such events?

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Re: Riots in the Twin Cities
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2020, 11:02:56 pm »
So the whole country is "burning" and where is it's "leader" I wonder. Practicing his fiddling as per Nero's handling of such events?

Nero only had one city burning.
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