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« Reply #255 on: February 17, 2023, 03:08:01 pm »
Yup.  They call themselves "anti-racists".

Don't be starting with this white fragility and white tears lol.
It’s amazing how these anti-racists act in similar fashion to racists from 50, 60, 70 years ago.  Personality characteristics attributed to skin colour, and segregation policy like non-white dorms in college/university, etc.  It’s so f**king deranged.
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« Reply #256 on: February 17, 2023, 03:10:49 pm »
It’s amazing how these anti-racists act in similar fashion to racists from 50, 60, 70 years ago.  Personality characteristics attributed to skin colour, and segregation policy like non-white dorms in college/university, etc.  It’s so f**king deranged.

You defended a Nazi rally, dumbfuck.
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« Reply #257 on: February 17, 2023, 03:57:29 pm »
Those are real things. Here's an example:

Ya but the terms themselves are racist.

Imagine calling black people getting upset at the n-word "black fragility" and getting upset at police misconduct "black tears".

There's a whole racist industry build around equating blame to white people, instead of blaming every individual for their own wrongdoings.  Blaming black people for all urban crime black people commit is also racist, and it creates racial resentment.  Its a bad way to tackle these problems.

ie: "White people" are not responsible for slavery, the white individuals who participated in slavery are, and the white individuals that supported it are also culpable.  I'll also mention that the black west Africans that invaded neighbouring villages and captured fellow Africans to sell to the white slave traders are also responsible.  As if europeans were uniquely a-holes and Africans didn't enslave each other for millennia, as did europeans and indigenous and every other group of people ever.
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« Reply #258 on: February 17, 2023, 04:05:01 pm »
Ya but the terms themselves are racist.

No they aren't.

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Imagine calling black people getting upset at the n-word "black fragility" and getting upset at police misconduct "black tears".

These are not equivalents to "white tears" and "white fragility".

If you have to drastically altering the meaning and context of the terms in order to make your argument work, it's a bad argument.

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There's a whole racist industry build around equating blame to white people, instead of blaming every individual for their own wrongdoings.  Blaming black people for all urban crime black people commit is also racist, and it creates racial resentment.  Its a bad way to tackle these problems.

We've had this discussion before around the term "whiteness" and "white" here doesn't always refer to specific white people.

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ie: "White people" are not responsible for slavery, the white individuals who participated in slavery are, and the white individuals that supported it are also culpable.  I'll also mention that the black west Africans that invaded neighbouring villages and captured fellow Africans to sell to the white slave traders are also responsible.  As if europeans were uniquely a-holes and Africans didn't enslave each other for millennia, as did europeans and indigenous and every other group of people ever.

So there's no systems or institutions, only individual actions? Come on.
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« Reply #259 on: February 17, 2023, 04:21:54 pm »
Ya but the terms themselves are racist.

Imagine calling black people getting upset at the n-word "black fragility" and getting upset at police misconduct "black tears".

There's a whole racist industry build around equating blame to white people, instead of blaming every individual for their own wrongdoings.  Blaming black people for all urban crime black people commit is also racist, and it creates racial resentment.  Its a bad way to tackle these problems.

ie: "White people" are not responsible for slavery, the white individuals who participated in slavery are, and the white individuals that supported it are also culpable.  I'll also mention that the black west Africans that invaded neighbouring villages and captured fellow Africans to sell to the white slave traders are also responsible.  As if europeans were uniquely a-holes and Africans didn't enslave each other for millennia, as did europeans and indigenous and every other group of people ever.
Africans were slave holders, and sold slaves to Europeans.  They were every part of the slavery apparatus as Europeans were.
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« Reply #260 on: February 17, 2023, 04:27:04 pm »
Africans were slave holders, and sold slaves to Europeans.  They were every part of the slavery apparatus as Europeans were.

I've never been sure why racists love this argument, as though the participation of Africans in the European system of chattel slavery somehow absolves the creators and beneficiaries of the system.
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« Reply #261 on: February 17, 2023, 04:58:09 pm »
I've never been sure why racists love this argument, as though the participation of Africans in the European system of chattel slavery somehow absolves the creators and beneficiaries of the system.

The African slave-traders benefited too.  They were sold for European goods.  I'm not sure why people get defensive when people point out this fact, except if they want to just blame whitey for everything and keep holding up Africans up as the noble victims. Sub-Saharan Africans nations at the time were just as monsterous as European nations.  Because they're human beings.

North American indigenous peoples had their own violent conquering empires, like the Aztecs and Incas, who murdered, plundered, ****, and enslaved other indigenous groups.  They would sacrifice conquered people by ripping their hearts of their chests alive.  That's how terrible people were back then.  There were inadequate or no human rights, there were no international rules of war, it was a war of all against all, we behaved like animals.  European nations were all busy murdering and raping and conquering each other too.
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« Reply #262 on: February 17, 2023, 05:06:12 pm »
The African slave-traders benefited too.  They were sold for European goods.  I'm not sure why people get defensive when people point out this fact, except if they want to just blame whitey for everything and keep holding up Africans up as the noble victims. Sub-Saharan Africans nations at the time were just as monsterous as European nations.  Because they're human beings.

If anyone gets "defensive" it's because this fact is often used as a way of deflecting responsibility for the TransAtlantic slave trade away from Europeans and obfuscating the fact that the slave trade was founded on and justified by the belief in racial hierarchies.

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« Reply #263 on: February 17, 2023, 05:24:15 pm »
The African slave-traders benefited too.  They were sold for European goods.  I'm not sure why people get defensive when people point out this fact, except if they want to just blame whitey for everything and keep holding up Africans up as the noble victims. Sub-Saharan Africans nations at the time were just as monsterous as European nations.  Because they're human beings.

North American indigenous peoples had their own violent conquering empires, like the Aztecs and Incas, who murdered, plundered, ****, and enslaved other indigenous groups.  They would sacrifice conquered people by ripping their hearts of their chests alive.  That's how terrible people were back then.  There were inadequate or no human rights, there were no international rules of war, it was a war of all against all, we behaved like animals.  European nations were all busy murdering and raping and conquering each other too.
Exactly.  They don’t like to acknowledge these facts because it’s a lot more difficult to exclusively blame Whitey.  Self hating White liberals were the worst most disgusting people. 🤮

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« Reply #264 on: February 17, 2023, 06:40:49 pm »
Exactly.  They don’t like to acknowledge these facts because it’s a lot more difficult to exclusively blame Whitey.  Self hating White liberals were the worst most disgusting people. 🤮

Absolutely retarded.

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« Reply #265 on: February 17, 2023, 07:51:24 pm »
If anyone gets "defensive" it's because this fact is often used as a way of deflecting responsibility for the TransAtlantic slave trade away from Europeans

Well the facts are the facts.  Everyone is responsible for their own actions.  European slave-traders didn't invent chattel slavery, but they did participate in it in a large systemic way, as did different people from other continent of people on the planet.  People acted like a-holes back then and might made right until democracy and human rights were established.

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