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Offline Gorgeous Graham

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« Reply #660 on: January 17, 2021, 02:23:19 pm »
Like Shady you seem to have a hard time distinguishing between random acts of violence and organized efforts to overthrow the state.

I never said the Floyd rioters were trying to overthrow the state so that's a strawman.  I said all these violent groups should get together and kill each other.
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« Reply #661 on: January 17, 2021, 02:32:42 pm »
I never said the Floyd rioters were trying to overthrow the state so that's a strawman.  I said all these violent groups should get together and kill each other.

It seems what you are failing to understand is that the group at the capitol we are talking about are not arbitrary but are taking orders from trump. Criminal charges/lawsuits will begin to be rolled out next Thursday.

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« Reply #662 on: January 18, 2021, 10:17:54 am »
I never said the Floyd rioters were trying to overthrow the state so that's a strawman.  I said all these violent groups should get together and kill each other.

Yeah and that's stupid.

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« Reply #664 on: March 03, 2021, 05:11:51 pm »
Tomorrow is the BIG DAY 😂

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« Reply #665 on: March 03, 2021, 06:26:14 pm »
They were never going to get Trump on the recent impeachment, with the possible exception of his Pence tweet during the riot.  It seemed pretty clear that people showed up with pre-meditated plans to attack the Capitol.  But it did need to be investigated.  I'm glad many of those losers were arrested at least.

Trump had far outlasted his expiration date., he's been done for a year.  It doesn't feel like we've moved on much.  Trumpy is in the news as much as Biden, the cable networks have their ratings cow.  Tabloid garbage.
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« Reply #666 on: March 04, 2021, 05:51:19 am »
Trumpy is in the news as much as Biden, the cable networks have their ratings cow.  Tabloid garbage.

Strongly disagree on that.

Less Trump on Twitter, less Trump on TV, and the Trumpites are quieter and quieter every month.

I'm still divided as to whether this means:

1) We are at a new era of inclusiveness where the so-called "deplorables" are now part of the conversation.  And maybe we need that
2) The rise of the deplorables was a blip caused by the advent of social media into the public sphere.  Their ways of expressing political will are not workable, and so the natural order is for them to be on the sidelines, since they can't play nicely.

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« Reply #667 on: March 04, 2021, 10:28:07 am »
I think its more #2.

Trump caused a movement for the deplorable to feel motivated, inspired, and gave them a voice.  Now that voice is gone from political power, they have less traction.
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« Reply #668 on: March 04, 2021, 12:10:17 pm »
Strongly disagree on that.

Less Trump on Twitter, less Trump on TV, and the Trumpites are quieter and quieter every month.

I'm still divided as to whether this means:

1) We are at a new era of inclusiveness where the so-called "deplorables" are now part of the conversation.  And maybe we need that
2) The rise of the deplorables was a blip caused by the advent of social media into the public sphere.  Their ways of expressing political will are not workable, and so the natural order is for them to be on the sidelines, since they can't play nicely.

3) they're licking their wounds and breaking into smaller cells with the most radical elements running the show.

It's not a matter of if we'll see an increase in acts of right-wing terrorism, but how much and when.

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« Reply #669 on: March 04, 2021, 02:19:24 pm »
3) they're licking their wounds and breaking into smaller cells with the most radical elements running the show.

It's not a matter of if we'll see an increase in acts of right-wing terrorism, but how much and when.

So... your option is that they are transforming into an insurgent group ?

Given the demographics you posted, that's one slow moving group... also will be dead in 20 years or less.

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« Reply #670 on: March 05, 2021, 10:30:39 am »
So... your option is that they are transforming into an insurgent group ?

Given the demographics you posted, that's one slow moving group... also will be dead in 20 years or less.

No I think there are elements within that larger group of MAGAts that will be radicalized even further. We've already seen this happen when Trump was in power, I expect it to get worse with him out.

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« Reply #671 on: March 05, 2021, 12:25:05 pm »
No I think there are elements within that larger group of MAGAts that will be radicalized even further. We've already seen this happen when Trump was in power, I expect it to get worse with him out.
This isn't even a new phenomenon. Hell, there was a film about this very thing in 1993 called Falling Down starring Michael Douglas. It was a tone deaf portrayal of the white victim complex, where he feels increasingly attacked but is actually the only one engaging in increasingly disturbing violence.
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« Reply #672 on: March 05, 2021, 12:52:36 pm »
This isn't even a new phenomenon. Hell, there was a film about this very thing in 1993 called Falling Down starring Michael Douglas. It was a tone deaf portrayal of the white victim complex, where he feels increasingly attacked but is actually the only one engaging in increasingly disturbing violence.

Forgot about that one. 

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« Reply #673 on: March 05, 2021, 07:00:20 pm »
This isn't even a new phenomenon. Hell, there was a film about this very thing in 1993 called Falling Down starring Michael Douglas. It was a tone deaf portrayal of the white victim complex, where he feels increasingly attacked but is actually the only one engaging in increasingly disturbing violence.

“Tone deaf”?
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« Reply #674 on: March 08, 2021, 06:57:09 pm »
“Tone deaf”?
Yeah. It seemed to glorify his violence. Some people mistakenly held the film up as a demonstration of how society is crumbling, missing the point entirely. So not tone deaf but more like clumsy storytelling.