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Offline segnosaur

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Re: Post US Election Transition Culture
« Reply #645 on: January 14, 2021, 02:41:25 pm »
accepting to Fox News internal schisms between its more legitimate News division and the Infotainment (money-maker) division, Media Matters offers up the following analysis:

In 2 weeks after it called the election, Fox News cast doubt on the results nearly 800 times
Yet over the past year or so, Trump has repeatedly criticized Fox news, and has promoted rivals to Fox such as OANN.

You figure they would have learned that Trump has no loyalty to anyone.

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« Reply #646 on: January 14, 2021, 02:52:50 pm »
Yet over the past year or so, Trump has repeatedly criticized Fox news, and has promoted rivals to Fox such as OANN.

You figure they would have learned that Trump has no loyalty to anyone.

Yeah but if they actually distance themselves from him-poof!-there goes their audience of angry divorced electricians and wine moms who are into MLM  schemes.
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« Reply #647 on: January 14, 2021, 05:43:34 pm »
Can't get enough of seeing the people who've spent the last four years saying "f*ck your feelings you soy snowflake!" pivot to "hey guys c'mon can we dial back the rhetoric a little bit please?" when they're actually being called to account for their support of Trumpism. Like this smarmy little prick.

I'll see your lil' prick and raise you this newly elected QAnonPrincess!, Republican Congresswoman from Georgia - Marjorie Taylor Greene  ..... with such a grandiose intention as to, 'file impeachment articles against Pres-Elect Biden'!


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« Reply #648 on: January 15, 2021, 08:38:03 am »
I'll see your lil' prick and raise you this newly elected QAnonPrincess!, Republican Congresswoman from Georgia - Marjorie Taylor Greene  ..... with such a grandiose intention as to, 'file impeachment articles against Pres-Elect Biden'!



This will be like their repeated, and fruitless, efforts to repeal Obama-Care.

It'll be interesting what reasons they'll find to actually impeach Biden if they take back the House.

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« Reply #649 on: January 15, 2021, 09:07:34 am »
This person should be impeached - her not Biden. She is a member of a domestic terrorist organization.
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« Reply #651 on: January 15, 2021, 01:29:11 pm »
We should find a way to get the white supremacist terrorists and Muslims terrorists and violent Antifa anarchists to kill each other.
I can tell how good of a person you are by how you treat the people you disagree with.

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« Reply #652 on: January 15, 2021, 01:40:48 pm »
We should find a way to get the white supremacist terrorists and Muslims terrorists and violent Antifa anarchists to kill each other.

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« Reply #653 on: January 15, 2021, 06:12:14 pm »
::) ::) ::) ::)

Oh yeah I forgot, some people only like violent lawless a-holes if they're fighting for the political goals they agree with.  People looting and burning some innocent person's small business are awesome!

If Trump supporters went out tomorrow and torched businesses across the US you'd be calling them terrorists.  Am I wrong?
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« Reply #654 on: January 15, 2021, 07:13:19 pm »

If Trump supporters went out tomorrow and torched businesses across the US you'd be calling them terrorists.  Am I wrong?

Well, kind of.  They'd be rioting because their boy lost the election, rather than having some elements of a protest against police brutality going awry.  I'm assuming that the point of the Trump protest would be to riot and burn.

And it still wouldn't be the same as invading the capital and killing people etc.

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« Reply #655 on: January 16, 2021, 01:28:10 am »
Apparently, a pillow salesman is one of Trumpís top advisors these days and is attempting to get him to declare martial law, install a stooge as CIA director and ummm...   not sure what else...  maybe supply government with his pillows?  That last part I made up.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/cia-kash-patel-mypillow-notes-lindell-trump/index.html

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A Trump ally's notes visible as he visited the West Wing on Friday revealed a suggestion to replace the current CIA director with the current acting chief of staff at the Pentagon. But according to multiple sources, it was not the first time the idea was broached inside the White House.

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell, a Republican donor who has informally advised President Donald Trump, was seen leaving the West Wing on Friday carrying pages of notes that appear to outline a series of recommendations. Among those that are visible are the words, "Move Kash Patel to CIA acting" a reference to the current chief of staff to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.
Patel, who has held a number of senior jobs in the administration, was named chief of staff to Miller a few days after the general election and is widely viewed as a Trump loyalist.
Captured by a Washington Post photographer, the images sparked immediate questions about Trump's final moves as President. But according to two administration officials, Trump has actually discussed with others the idea of installing Patel as acting CIA director before.

Just fuckiní bizarre....   

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« Reply #656 on: January 16, 2021, 03:15:26 pm »
Oh yeah I forgot, some people only like violent lawless a-holes if they're fighting for the political goals they agree with.  People looting and burning some innocent person's small business are awesome!

If Trump supporters went out tomorrow and torched businesses across the US you'd be calling them terrorists.  Am I wrong?

The looters in the BLM protests were mostly opportunists with no political affiliations.  They were just common criminals who abused the movement.

While I agree that some people in the January 6 riots were just caught up in the moment, there is ample evidence that the insurrection was premeditated, with an end goal of achieving a political change through violent means.

I know it's handy to 'both sides' this issue, but there is no comparison.
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« Reply #657 on: January 16, 2021, 03:31:40 pm »
Tin Foil Hat time:

I believe that Trump was hoping the events of January 6 would give him the opportunity to invoke martial law and allow him to remain president "until the violence has ended". (which, given the unrest such a move would provoke might be a long time, possibly long enough for him to concoct some means of overturning the election.)

That's a conspiracy theory, founded on nothing more than circumstance.  But consider:

 -the removal of Secretary of Defense Mike Esper right after the election.

 -Trump's unwillingness to deploy National Guard troops. The DC National Guard and Maryland National Guard were ready to deploy but weren't given approval to do so.  Mike Pence and others were eventually able to work around Trump to give approval, but it took hours longer than it should have.

 -lax security preparations, despite a lot of buzz on social media that something was going to happen.

 -Trump alleged to have watched the events unfolding on TV with delight, and didn't issue his call for the rioters to disperse until it was clear that they had failed.

There were other things as well that give the impression that there was inside cooperation with the mob. Reps alleged to have given tours to Qanon types in days prior to Jan 6. Colorado rep Lauren Boebert live-tweeting Nancy Pelosi's location while the rioters were inside the Capitol.  Rep Ayanna Pressley's staff reported that the panic buttons had been torn out of her office.  Some Capitol police alleged to have removed barriers for rioters and even taken selfies with them.  Trump's ally Michael Flynn urging Trump to implement martial law right after getting pardoned.

I mean, obviously none of this proves anything, but it does make me think that Trump was hoping this could be his own version of the Reichstagg Fire.

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Re: Post US Election Transition Culture
« Reply #658 on: January 16, 2021, 04:07:16 pm »
Tin Foil Hat time:

I mean, obviously none of this proves anything, but it does make me think that Trump was hoping this could be his own version of the Reichstagg Fire.

 -k
The competency problem always looms large in my dismissal of most conspiracies that involve shadowy tendrils, roots, or branches of a government or political party. There's so little reason to believe they could execute their secret schemes any better than the one's they commit to aboveboard. That it failed so spectacularly is what makes your theory most credible.

I doubt Trump could even find the word Reichstagg in a historical book never mind cobble it's context together in way that relates to his own which suggests someone like Steve Bannon had more to do with Trump's apparent motives and actions surrounding the insurrection. Stands to reason Trump would recycle some of his original advisors given he's either burned thru all the rest or he's paranoid about who he has left.
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Re: Post US Election Transition Culture
« Reply #659 on: January 17, 2021, 01:46:34 pm »
Oh yeah I forgot, some people only like violent lawless a-holes if they're fighting for the political goals they agree with.  People looting and burning some innocent person's small business are awesome!

If Trump supporters went out tomorrow and torched businesses across the US you'd be calling them terrorists.  Am I wrong?

Like Shady you seem to have a hard time distinguishing between random acts of violence and organized efforts to overthrow the state.
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