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Offline Queefer Sutherland

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« Reply #420 on: January 07, 2021, 03:45:27 pm »
Bullshit.   If you storm the legislature buildings to riot and overturn the government, you should be shot, or at the very least arrested.   BLM, ANTIFA, whomever.   If this was BLM who did this, there’s be dead people littering the offices.

I agree with that.

So if Trump won the election and you and many others were convinced that he illegally stole the election, you'd just let it happen and would condemn any riots to stop his confirmation?  I call BS.

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If this was BLM who did this, there’s be dead people littering the offices.

It's possible.  But how many BLM protestors were killed by police during the Floyd riots?
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« Reply #421 on: January 07, 2021, 03:47:22 pm »
The lesson is to appease the nutbars and do what they want?

Sounds like a recipe for a lovely, happy country where black folks can hold hands with the KKK...

These issues are too complicated for you to understand.
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« Reply #422 on: January 07, 2021, 03:52:14 pm »
Keep believing these things, if enough people do there will be another Trump 4 years from now.

The lesson Trump's rise has given us is that if an autocrat ego-maniac is the only type of politician to attempt to address the issues that people want addressed, then people will elect autocrat ego-maniac.

What the **** are you talking about? it's pretty clear that Trump's appeal was in large part an appeal to economic and social anxiety (but unlike someone like Bernie, Trump's version is of the blame the immigrants and brown people variety) but his actions in government were antithetical to that, but his supporters were too invested in the racism part to care.


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« Reply #423 on: January 07, 2021, 03:58:50 pm »
It's possible.  But how many BLM protestors were killed by police during the Floyd riots?

Hundreds if not thousands were arrested, hundreds more were injured, many for life. And nobody was trying to trash a government building where legislators were trying to do their jobs.
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« Reply #424 on: January 07, 2021, 03:59:10 pm »
Keep believing these things, if enough people do there will be another Trump 4 years from now.

The lesson Trump's rise has given us is that if an autocrat ego-maniac is the only type of politician to attempt to address the issues that people want addressed, then people will elect autocrat ego-maniac.

And so just what issues do you think donny proposing to affect when he ran in 2016? Keep in mind more Americans voted against him then as now.

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« Reply #425 on: January 07, 2021, 03:59:45 pm »
I agree with that.

So if Trump won the election and you and many others were convinced that he illegally stole the election, you'd just let it happen and would condemn any riots to stop his confirmation?  I call BS.

“Stole the election”?   There was no stealing of an election.  WTF are you even talking about???

Trump won the election in 2016 with the aid of Russia, and there were still no insurrections.  I don’t remember calling for an insurrection.....   please point to where I’ve supported that.

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It's possible.  But how many BLM protestors were killed by police during the Floyd riots?

No idea.   But if a few got shot or arrested rioting, I wouldn’t shed a tear.  Rioters should be dealt with harshly.

One of the problems with the BLM protests was the harsh treatment of the peaceful ones....   not surprising what it led to.  But, in most cases, the rioters were merely taking advantage of the unrest.
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« Reply #426 on: January 07, 2021, 04:04:50 pm »
Keep believing these things, if enough people do there will be another Trump 4 years from now.
Actually it'll be entirely due to election fraud.

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Republican legislators plan to crack down on voting access after record turnout helped Democrat Joe Biden win Georgia, flipping the state after 24 years of GOP presidential wins.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/strict-absentee-voting-limits-proposed-after-record-georgia-turnout/BLDBKKOLCJDU7FWUAM4CPNZ43I/

Election fraud has been systemic in America since the days when only white landowners were allowed to vote.
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« Reply #427 on: January 07, 2021, 04:11:04 pm »
I've been trying to think of the term for why yesterday's events and those of the summer of BLM protests aren't comparable, but this pretty much sums it up.

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« Reply #428 on: January 07, 2021, 04:11:58 pm »
Just hearing that the feds in DC are seriously looking into bringing charges against trump for insurrection based on his activities related to yesterdays riot. Here's hoping they remove him from his golf course in shackles.
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« Reply #429 on: January 07, 2021, 04:15:49 pm »
I've been trying to think of the term for why yesterday's events and those of the summer of BLM protests aren't comparable, but this pretty much sums it up.

That is succinct.

But anyone with 2 fuckin’ brain cells to rub together can tell the difference between:

  • an insurrection on the Capitol while counting votes for a new president with the outgoing president seditiously egging on a group of violent supporters.
  • Civil unrest caused by violent acts by police on innocent black people

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« Reply #430 on: January 07, 2021, 04:17:09 pm »
That is succinct.

But anyone with 2 fuckin’ brain cells to rub together can tell the difference between:

  • an insurrection on the Capitol while counting votes for a new president with the outgoing president seditiously egging on a group of violent supporters.
  • Civil unrest caused by violent acts by police on innocent black people

You would think so but alas!
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« Reply #431 on: January 07, 2021, 04:42:57 pm »
Here’s a pic of the security when they thought BLM might be heading towards the Lincoln Memorial.  (Rightfully so, I might add...   government buildings and personnel should be protected from rioters)


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« Reply #432 on: January 07, 2021, 04:44:21 pm »
I've been trying to think of the term for why yesterday's events and those of the summer of BLM protests aren't comparable, but this pretty much sums it up.

Yup, particularly where b-boy in the twitter thread you provided says;
 
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...it is a category error to treat civil unrest, however damaging, as equivalent to a mob incited by the chief executive to disable the seat of the national legislature at the moment of a transition of power to a political rival.
Trying to whatabout a way past Trump's attempt to instigate a coup merely underscores that's exactly what it was, an attempted coup. What's ironic is that it's a coup more befitting of the type America has been instigating around the planet for decades.  America has become what it eats and it's really no surprise it's elected a president that possess's the same blind self-serving narcissism that permitted America to behave the way it did in other countries around the world.

Trump is more than just an effect he's really nothing less than a superimposition of what America has been for decades with regards to the wills of people's, especially of anyone else's. He's the revisiting sin...America's karma.  It astounds me that America should have become regarded as being the shiniest beacon for liberty in the world - the ultimate Orwellianism.
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« Reply #433 on: January 07, 2021, 05:03:52 pm »
Yup, particularly where b-boy in the twitter thread you provided says;
 Trying to whatabout a way past Trump's attempt to instigate a coup merely underscores that's exactly what it was, an attempted coup. What's ironic is that it's a coup more befitting of the type America has been instigating around the planet for decades. America has become what it eats and it's really no surprise it's elected a president that possess's the same blind self-serving narcissism that permitted America to behave the way it did in other countries around the world.


As much as i get where you're coming from I think there's more value in looking at this through the lens of US domestic history and events like the Wilmington Massacre of 1898 in which white supremacists overthrew the city government of a city in North Carolina, and slaughtered a unknown number of black people and got away with it. Now as then there's a significant faction of US people who believe that any government that represents a multiracial coalition of the electorate is ipso facto illegitimate. Far from being an organized coup or popular uprising, yesterday was a spasm of anger that was only as relatively harmless as it was due to the clownishness and cowardice of its perpetrators.
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« Reply #434 on: January 07, 2021, 05:09:56 pm »
Since Shady is off digging through You Tube to find videos of protesters knocking over a potted plant in the hallway of the Senate or some dumb ****, I want to point out that all of yesterday's nonsense resulted in a grand total of 67 arrests while 58 officers were reported to have been injured. During the Kavanaugh hearings, the cops arrested more than 225 protesters and zero cops were hurt (unless one of the fat pigs threw out their back hauling women away).