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What is your point? All Marxists and Democrats but not all Democrats and Marxists. Are you going to seriously argue that Nazis are worse than Marxists?
What in the texts of Karl Marx do you find to be as bad as Nazism?
And a true Marxist would never be a Democrat. They're a capitalist party.
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Offline Omni

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Who concluded?

Ah you know, those people who believe in such things as civil rights, multiculturalism, and not so much in racism or xenophobia.   
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What is your point? All Marxists and Democrats but not all Democrats and Marxists. Are you going to seriously argue that Nazis are worse than Marxists?
This is just entirely wrong. If you read anything from Marxists online, they absolutely despise liberalism. Liberalism is literally the anti-thesis of Marxist theory. It says that classes will dissolve over and we'll be left with a plurality of individuals in association with one another. Marxism argues that class consciousness develops over time and class ties get stronger. Furthermore, Democrats do nothing to address the material interests of the working class. They only serve to reproduce the economic system that Marxists see as oppressive. Marxists believe that liberal ideology is an illusion of individual rights and freedoms that keep people from seeing the oppressive social structures that arise out of the material interests of the ownership-class. So no. Marxists are not Democrats. Marxists literally hate the Democratic Party.

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And you seem to be lacking critical thinking skills.
That's rich coming from the dude who thinks Marxists are Democrats.
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Ah you know, those people who believe in such things as civil rights, multiculturalism, and not so much in racism or xenophobia.

That's pretty arrogant. So according to you,  people who don't like social activists in their most obnoxious forms don't believe in any of those things.
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That's pretty arrogant. So according to you,  people who don't like social activists in their most obnoxious forms don't believe in any of those things.

The term SJW used to be a compliment and then along came "gamergate"
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And you seem to be lacking critical thinking skills. Extremists exist at both ends of the spectrum. Objectively the racist creed of the nazis is no worse than the racist creed of many SJWs harping about "white privilege". If you can't see that it is because you are not willing to look at things objectively.

For once defend your position (if you can) instead of pointing fingers like a grade school kid. I’ve often defended my position without name calling but you seem incapable.

Also, extremists of the modern day left aren’t exactly calling out for mass murder so there is huge difference you can maybe acknowledge. As you and Argus like to point out, our caricatures are crying on the sideline about getting offended about something.

So yeah. Nazis are way worse.


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This is just entirely wrong. If you read anything from Marxists online, they absolutely despise liberalism.
And Nazi despise most of what the Republicans stand for (Nazi were socialists that expected private industry to server the state). What is your point? The fact is extremists seek out mainstream parties as a vehicle to promote their views. Marxists gravitate to the "socialist" parties because of the connection with organized labour and big government. Nazis gravitate towards "nationalist" parties because of opposition to immigration. If you want to smear republican party because Nazis seems to support it then you are validating Republicans who smear Democrats because of the Marxists who happen to support the Democrats.

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If you want to smear republican party because Nazis seems to support it then you are validating Republicans who smear Democrats because of the Marxists who happen to support the Democrats.

When did the leader of the Democrats ever call a bunch of torch parading Marxists shouting racist slogans "very fine people"?

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Also, extremists of the modern day left aren’t exactly calling out for mass murder so there is huge difference you can maybe acknowledge.
And I have not heard any modern Nazi call for mass murder - just the creation of a "white homeland" (whatever that means).  Obviously, violence could occur if these yahoos ever got power and they did not back down in the face of opposition. To contrast with the extremists on the left calling for nationalization of various businesses, rigidly enforced speech codes, mandatory race based quotas for virtual every occupation, taxation of "whites" to pay for past "crimes", et. al.

To put it simply: extremists on the left share the belief with nazis that state power should be used to force others to conform to the society that they believe is best. Both are equally odious but the difference is nazis are no threat because everyone understands how vile the ideology is. The same cannot be said of extremists on the left.

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And I have not heard any modern Nazi call for mass murder - just the creation of a "white homeland" (whatever that means). 

Auslander aus, or do you prefer Auslander Raus?

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Tim, are you actually defending Nazis now?!?

Do you think it’s a coincidence that Reddit has disallowed white supremacist views if they incite violence? Or stormfront putting on their front page that such posts will be taken down? Do you dispute that far right extremists killed more people in the US than any other group? Get your head out of the clouds, buddy, these are not people you want to be defending. It’s way more than just wanting a white homeland.
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A white homeland means a lot of people would have to go.
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Dylan Roof and Nikolas Cruz were both Nazi sympathizers but yeah...Marxists are just as bad.

Offline TimG

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Tim, are you actually defending Nazis now?!?
I doubt my argument  that 'nazis are vile scumbags but they are no worse than the vile scumbags on the extreme left' would be seen as a defence...