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Offline Squidward von Squidderson

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2017, 07:47:08 pm »
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Moana is very feminist ...

Treating women as equals is a pretty mainstream (centrist) idea these days. 

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2017, 07:57:45 pm »
Treating women as equals is a pretty mainstream (centrist) idea these days.

Maybe we should ask who on here really is centrist ?  I feel like I am...

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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2017, 09:11:39 pm »
Treating women as equals is a pretty mainstream (centrist) idea these days.

Really, did you actually see some sort of equality between the characters?

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2017, 10:58:45 pm »
Hal, maybe you want to enlighten us why treating people with respect and women being equal are considered 'leftist social engineering' and not common sense.

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 11:45:46 am »
Maybe we should ask who on here really is centrist ?  I feel like I am...

As a centrist, I feel that you are most definitely on the Left.
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 12:04:40 pm »
As a centrist, I feel that you are most definitely on the Left.

And I feel your commentary on imigration for instance puts you a "few" notches right of a centrist.

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 12:29:31 pm »
If I'm not a centrist who here is ?

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2017, 11:07:09 am »
If I'm not a centrist who here is ?

Someone in the centre is generally not a person who simply has moderate, middle of the road, bland views on everything. A centrist will have some right of centre views, and some left of centre views. I have a number of views which are on the Left and a number on the Right. That's what makes me a centrist. I hate Republicans but I think the Democrats are idiots - as an example. Have you seen anyone on these groups more critical of Trump, and before that the Tea Party than me?  Yet I feel no affinity for the Democrats. A lot of them are as bad, in their way, as the Tea baggers, with their ignorant identity politics and reverse racism and simplistic stupidity. I feel equal contempt for the far left and the far right. You won't find me making excuses for either group. I've been highly critical of the Conservatives in the past, and will be again.

As far as I have seen through reading your posts for years all your views are Left of centre.
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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2017, 11:08:39 am »
And I feel your commentary on imigration for instance puts you a "few" notches right of a centrist.

That's because as far as you're concerned anyone to the right of Fidel Castro is a fascist.
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« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2017, 11:13:50 am »
Someone in the centre is generally not a person who simply has moderate, middle of the road, bland views on everything. A centrist will have some right of centre views, and some left of centre views. I have a number of views which are on the Left and a number on the Right. That's what makes me a centrist. I hate Republicans but I think the Democrats are idiots - as an example. Have you seen anyone on this groups more critical of Trump than me?  I feel equal contempt for the far left and the far right. You won't find me making excuses for either group. I've been highly critical of the Conservatives in the past, and will be again.

As far as I have seen through reading your posts for years all your views are Left of centre.

You are socially and fiscally conservative.   You express contempt of anyone you consider 'leftist' in the least, not just far left.  Calling yourself a centrist is ridiculous.

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2017, 11:32:10 am »
You are socially and fiscally conservative.   You express contempt of anyone you consider 'leftist' in the least, not just far left.  Calling yourself a centrist is ridiculous.

I express contempt for people who act in a contemptible fashion. I discuss things politely with people who post in a polite fashion. I've been pretty consistent with that, although there have been occasional lapses, I admit, especially when dealing with anti-Semites or the likes of Hot Enough, say, who are just brainlessly anti-Western. With you, your habit of rushing to the defense of Muslims every time there's an outrage, and frantically searching out some comparable 'crime' a Christian has committed is illogical and silly, and I tend to be less respectful towards it. When you try to tell me how great life is for women in the Muslim world I can't help just roll my eyes.

Socially conservative? I'm pro-choice, though reluctant because I see it as wasteful. I don't support the death penalty because I don't trust the justice system to get things right. I'm in favor (mostly) of lgbt rights. In terms of gender I'm, if not a feminist, an equallist. I think any woman who can prove she's as good as a man should have an equal shot at a job or promotion. I'm strongly in favour of public education and public health care and have called for public pharmacare. I'm in favour of greatly increased and expanded skills and educational training for the unemployed or unemployable. I would like to see greatly enhanced mental health services as well as drug and alcohol treatment facilities. I support public transit and livable cities. I'm an environmentalist - a sensible one, the kind you don't see much of on TV.
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2017, 08:27:07 am »
Well, you make a case for yourself but why I wouldn't be considered a centrist is a head-scratcher to me.

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« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2017, 03:25:59 pm »
Well, you make a case for yourself but why I wouldn't be considered a centrist is a head-scratcher to me.

How many right wing policies/beliefs do you support?
"When liberals insist that only fascists will defend borders then voters will hire fascists to do the job liberals won't do." David Frum

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2017, 05:25:15 pm »
You have to support right wing ideologies to be considered a centrist?   LOL.  Up is down...  down is up with that worldview!
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Offline Michael Hardner

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Re: Looks like the Kid Rock poll was faked
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2017, 07:56:18 pm »
How many right wing policies/beliefs do you support?

How many ?  I'd say I support important ones, and am willing to meet half-way on others.