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Re: What Happened to America's Public Intellectuals
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2024, 01:36:13 am »
Is student groups supporting the genocide of Jews on Oct 7, or even blaming Jews for it, the same as speaking out about trans athletes?  Sounds like one is overlooked and the other is punished.  The whole "free speech" thing is nonsense.  There's harassment, there's rules of behaviour they enforce on campus in these same places that also set up safe spaces, trigger warnings, preach microaggressions, and DEI.  But supporting the targeted murder of a racial group is free speech?  They're have hypocritical double-standards.

What would your reaction be if right-wing students and student groups and some conservative profs came out and supported the Christchurch massacre of Muslims?

This is such BS. Israel was getting called out in protests and social media for 'genocide' and suddenly this red herring campaign started about "River to the Sea" being about (gasp) GENOCIDE. No no no, Israel can't commit genocide you see, because these people are out here yelling for Palestinian rights.

Or fine, let's take it in the context of erasing Israel as a nation and giving the land to Arabs. Isn't that EXACTLY what several Israeli politicians have said about Palestinians, not even metaphorically like a river to the sea, but quite literally let's kick them out and take their land -- yet when those statements are presented to the ICC as intent of genocide, gosh no. That's not genocide, not when Israel says it. They're just kidding you see.

A bunch of college kids screaming is genocide but actual cabinet ministers of Israel saying the reverse, no siree, nothing to see here. So you wanna go on about double standards of protected speech depending on whether or not you agree with the message, well there you go!

I shall define "River to the Sea" as genocidal, whether or not you agree, and I will make a show of it by saying you're calling for genocide of Jews.

Err, no. Nobody (at Harvard anyway) was calling for genocide of Jews. The whole thing was a strawman from beginning to end.
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Re: What Happened to America's Public Intellectuals
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2024, 07:30:31 pm »
This is such BS. Israel was getting called out in protests and social media for 'genocide' and suddenly this red herring campaign started about "River to the Sea" being about (gasp) GENOCIDE. No no no, Israel can't commit genocide you see, because these people are out here yelling for Palestinian rights.

Or fine, let's take it in the context of erasing Israel as a nation and giving the land to Arabs. Isn't that EXACTLY what several Israeli politicians have said about Palestinians, not even metaphorically like a river to the sea, but quite literally let's kick them out and take their land -- yet when those statements are presented to the ICC as intent of genocide, gosh no. That's not genocide, not when Israel says it. They're just kidding you see.

A bunch of college kids screaming is genocide but actual cabinet ministers of Israel saying the reverse, no siree, nothing to see here. So you wanna go on about double standards of protected speech depending on whether or not you agree with the message, well there you go!

I shall define "River to the Sea" as genocidal, whether or not you agree, and I will make a show of it by saying you're calling for genocide of Jews.

Err, no. Nobody (at Harvard anyway) was calling for genocide of Jews. The whole thing was a strawman from beginning to end.

Nobody made any claims that kids are promoting genocide at Harvard, including Congress.  Gay was asked about it though.  Jews on campus at Harvard were being harassed, per Gay.  There are students and student groups in universities across north america that openly supported the Oct 6 attacks, which is supporting genocide.  All the antisemitism happening on campuses was the reason for the hearings.

George Floyd happens and all the universities send out a statement of support.  Trans rights means admins clamp down on free speech.  Then Oct 6 happens and suddenly admins don't want to "weight into the politics" and now suddenly want to "support free speech".  Bad, bad look.
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Re: What Happened to America's Public Intellectuals
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2024, 10:28:00 pm »
Nobody made any claims that kids are promoting genocide at Harvard, including Congress.  Gay was asked about it though.  Jews on campus at Harvard were being harassed, per Gay.  There are students and student groups in universities across north america that openly supported the Oct 6 attacks, which is supporting genocide.  All the antisemitism happening on campuses was the reason for the hearings.

If a terrorist attack that kills a few hundred=genocide, what do you calls sustained campaign of bombing that kills tens of thousands and displaces millions?