Author Topic: Accusation of Uneven Justice for White Man (USA Edition)  (Read 245 times)

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Offline Michael Hardner

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Well... I already explained that this is more about money than race.

Does anybody else find it odd that the justice system is so biased towards the wealthy and it's never addressed as a problem ?  "That's just the way it is..."

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Well... I already explained that this is more about money than race.

Does anybody else find it odd that the justice system is so biased towards the wealthy and it's never addressed as a problem ?  "That's just the way it is..."

Everything is biased towards the wealthy.  What would be the point in being wealthy if it wasn't?

Offline Michael Hardner

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Everything is biased towards the wealthy.  What would be the point in being wealthy if it wasn't?

Well, WE know that.  But do 'normal people' ?

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Well... I already explained that this is more about money than race.

Does anybody else find it odd that the justice system is so biased towards the wealthy and it's never addressed as a problem ?  "That's just the way it is..."

I'm a guy who has called for the whole legal system to be torn up and a new one put in place so... yeah I think it's a problem. Why is it never addressed? Because the people who benefit from it are the ones in power.

You have a whole class of professionals called lawyers who have managed to make law so damned complicated no one else can come close to understanding it, and it takes forever to arrive at a resolution to even the simplest cases - thus guaranteeing them big fat salaries. Who could decide to make major changes and how to do it other than a lawyer? And no lawyer is going to invalidate his or herself by doing that!
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  Because the people who benefit from it are the ones in power.

Wow... look at you, you little rabble rouser you...

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You have a whole class of professionals called lawyers who have managed to make law so damned complicated no one else can come close to understanding it, and it takes forever to arrive at a resolution to even the simplest cases - thus guaranteeing them big fat salaries. Who could decide to make major changes and how to do it other than a lawyer? And no lawyer is going to invalidate his or herself by doing that!

I think this is related to Parkinsons Law.  I have seen it in medicine, IT, and marketing also.  People don't do their work unless there's a threat of reprisal. 

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Black guy had 9 previous convictions.  50 years seems like a lot but I have no idea what those other 9 things were.  People aren't jailed 50 years for stealing ribs.

White guy should have gone to jail.
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I had a friend who lived in a 3 strikes state, and he got caught on a 3rd DUI.  Not majorly over the limit but he would have gone to jail for a long long time.

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Regardless, I'm skeptical that race is the key factor.  I think it's more likely about wealth, privilege, and connectedness. Obviously the great majority of those who are wealthy, privileged, and connected happen to be white, but I don't think it's race in itself that lets wealthy white people off the hook in situations where a minority person would be doing jail time.  Consider cases where black college athletes have been shielded from consequences because they score lots of touchdowns.  Wealth and influence might be sources of privilege, but they aren't the only source.
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Then think about how differently a wealth black college athlete would be treated versus a wealthy white college athlete. I've no doubt in my mind that the black kid would be treated far worse by the criminal justice system in the states anyway.

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Then think about how differently a wealth black college athlete would be treated versus a wealthy white college athlete. I've no doubt in my mind that the black kid would be treated far worse by the criminal justice system in the states anyway.

Baylor University went to every length to shield its football player rapists from prosecution, black or white.  The highschool football player rapists, one black, one white, were both protected equally by their community, and when finally prosecuted received equal sentences (the white kid actually received an additional sentence for the additional crime of distributing images on social media.)

If we were talking about nobodies, then yes, I agree with what you're saying. But when it comes to so-called sports heroes, people will rally around their sports heroes regardless of skin color. As with Ben Rothlisberger, so with Kobe Bryant. All that matters is that they score touchdowns for the home team.

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If we were talking about nobodies, then yes, I agree with what you're saying. But when it comes to so-called sports heroes, people will rally around their sports heroes regardless of skin color. As with Ben Rothlisberger, so with Kobe Bryant. All that matters is that they score touchdowns for the home team.

They don't care if they use roids to cheat either as long as it's making the teams and leagues make money.
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They don't care if they use roids to cheat either as long as it's making the teams and leagues make money.

Story in one of the papers last week, I think, about the quarterback of West Point's football team. He should have been thrown out of West Point for violating the honor code in a case of alleged **** against another cadet. He said/she said eventually, but the point was he lied anyway, and that's enough to get you booted. He wasn't. Why? He gets mediocre marks and has had discipline issues aside from this but on the other hand, well, he's the freaking quarterback. Doesn't matter a damn that he's Black.
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Wow... look at you, you little rabble rouser you...

And **** big business too.

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I think this is related to Parkinsons Law.  I have seen it in medicine, IT, and marketing also.  People don't do their work unless there's a threat of reprisal.

It's simply not in the interests of lawyers, who bill by the hour, to reform an extraordinarily complex, expensive and time consuming system. Rather the opposite, in fact. Ergo they will never do it. If we want to make changes we'll have to do it against their will, using outside experts, likely from other countries. Of course, that requires political will, and given how many lawyers are in government that's damned unlikely.
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