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Offline SirJohn

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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2018, 04:35:07 pm »
The BS is blaming whomever for this besides the person who made and sent the bombs.

There's a reason we have hate speech laws. Because of the ability of some people to influence larger groups of people and possibly cause some of them to use violence against  identifiable groups.
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2018, 04:44:35 pm »
The BS is blaming whomever for this besides the person who made and sent the bombs.

There's some CNN guests and Don Lemon i watched yesterday who were going on about Trump's insulting rhetoric and the bombs, CNN showing past clips of Trump insulting Maxine Waters during a rally. etc.  Someone on CNN, I don't remember who, was criticizing Trump for not taking responsibility for his divisive rhetoric.  I don't have links I watched it on TV,

What Lemon and others have pointed out is simply the truth. Trump has made numerous comments which could certainly influence his knuckle dragger type supporters to resort to violence, including his comments at a speech saying words to the effect of "go ahead and punch him out, I'll pay your legal fees" and other stupid **** in the same vein. That doesn't mean he's responsible for the current pipe bombs directly, but you can't ignore his repetitive calls to violence toward people who challenge him. And just reflect back on who all these bombs were sent to.

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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2018, 05:33:25 pm »
What Lemon and others have pointed out is simply the truth. Trump has made numerous comments which could certainly influence his knuckle dragger type supporters to resort to violence, including his comments at a speech saying words to the effect of "go ahead and punch him out, I'll pay your legal fees" and other stupid **** in the same vein. That doesn't mean he's responsible for the current pipe bombs directly, but you can't ignore his repetitive calls to violence toward people who challenge him. And just reflect back on who all these bombs were sent to.

If he's inciting violence he should be charged.  I haven't seen that myself, but then again I ignore his dumb speeches & rallies most of the time.  Big difference in calls to violence and just bashing people.

He should be criticized for his divisive unprofessional rhetoric generally but i haven't seen anything that could inspire someone to send pipe bombs.  Show me if i'm wrong.
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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2018, 05:46:52 pm »
Shouting "enemy of the people", "lock her up", and all the other scum rhetoric from the President of the United States will inspire the brain dead idiots that think they are "patriots" or "nationalists" to take matters into their own hands.
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2018, 06:05:51 pm »
If he's inciting violence he should be charged.  I haven't seen that myself, but then again I ignore his dumb speeches & rallies most of the time.  Big difference in calls to violence and just bashing people.

He should be criticized for his divisive unprofessional rhetoric generally but i haven't seen anything that could inspire someone to send pipe bombs.  Show me if i'm wrong.

Judge rules that Trump may have incited violence:
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“It is plausible that Trump’s direction to ‘get ’em out of here’ advocated the use of force,” Hale wrote. “It was an order, an instruction, a command.”
https://www.dailyrepublic.com/all-dr-news/opinion/state-national-columnists/judge-rules-trump-may-have-incited-violence/

Examples of Trump calling for or condoning violence: 
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President Donald Trump on Thursday praised a congressman’s past assault on a reporter, making it the latest example where he appears to encourage or support violence.   

In Cedar Rapids, Iowa, on the day of the Iowa caucuses, for instance, he told audience members he would pay their legal fees if they engaged in violence against protesters.

he said security guards were too gentle with a protester. "He's walking out with big high-fives, smiling, laughing," Trump said. "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you."

On July 2, 2017, Trump shared the doctored video, from a 2007 WWE skit in which he is seen taking down WWE owner Vince McMahon. In the version Trump shared, McMahon's face is blocked by the CNN logo.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2018, 06:32:20 pm »
If he's inciting violence he should be charged.  I haven't seen that myself, but then again I ignore his dumb speeches & rallies most of the time.  Big difference in calls to violence and just bashing people.

He should be criticized for his divisive unprofessional rhetoric generally but i haven't seen anything that could inspire someone to send pipe bombs.  Show me if i'm wrong.

If you call someone an enemy of the state, an enemy of the people, someone trying to destroy your way of life, someone deliberately pumping out fake news, why would it surprise you the odd screwball would decide to act on it?
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2018, 07:24:39 pm »
If he's inciting violence he should be charged.  I haven't seen that myself, but then again I ignore his dumb speeches & rallies most of the time.  Big difference in calls to violence and just bashing people.

He should be criticized for his divisive unprofessional rhetoric generally but i haven't seen anything that could inspire someone to send pipe bombs.  Show me if i'm wrong.

Well quite simply if you hadn't ignored his dumb speeches you would have heard him inciting violence. It's hard to comment on what you ignore.

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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2018, 07:55:48 pm »
The BS is blaming whomever for this besides the person who made and sent the bombs.

I don't know so much.  I definitely think it's okay to blame a toxic ideology when even only a few adherents act in a violent, barbaric and disgusting manner, if they are acting based on their belief in that ideology.

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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2018, 09:18:01 pm »
Trump is lucky he is a Republican. Democrats seem less likely to send pipe bombs to opponents.

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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2018, 11:43:38 pm »
Shouting "enemy of the people", "lock her up", and all the other scum rhetoric from the President of the United States will inspire the brain dead idiots that think they are "patriots" or "nationalists" to take matters into their own hands.

Via violence?  Not unless they're crazy.  Big difference between "lock her up" and "blow her up".
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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2018, 11:44:48 pm »
If you call someone an enemy of the state, an enemy of the people, someone trying to destroy your way of life, someone deliberately pumping out fake news, why would it surprise you the odd screwball would decide to act on it?

It doesn't, but that's a lot to do with the USA being full of violent screwballs.
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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2018, 11:47:45 pm »
Examples of Trump calling for or condoning violence:  https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

Well the "punch him in the face" comment is especially really horrible.  Thank you.
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2018, 12:04:17 am »
It doesn't, but that's a lot to do with the USA being full of violent screwballs.

And it seems many of them like kissing Trump's arse.

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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2018, 02:26:57 am »


If you call someone an enemy of the state, an enemy of the people, someone trying to destroy your way of life, someone deliberately pumping out fake news, why would it surprise you the odd screwball would decide to act on it?

This is really it.


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Re: Explosives sent to Obama, Clinton, Soros, CNN
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2018, 06:40:02 am »
If he's inciting violence he should be charged.  I haven't seen that myself, but then again I ignore his dumb speeches & rallies most of the time.  Big difference in calls to violence and just bashing people.

He should be criticized for his divisive unprofessional rhetoric generally but i haven't seen anything that could inspire someone to send pipe bombs.  Show me if i'm wrong.

He straight-out calls Democrat politicians criminals, says that actions against him are an illegal conspiracy, calls his opposition a mob and incites people to assault those who oppose him.

You can't arrest him for that unless the mealy Republican party is on board, which they aren't.  There should be a political price for such actions but there is no 'public' anymore, just a mass of angry people whose information and sphere of action is doctrinaire Republican.